600 wheelies

[steveh]

okay, yes its another one of those "how do i wheelie" threads, what im basicly after is some tips on doing "safe" wheelies i.e not flipping the bike ect, starting off a total noob with big bike wheelies, were should i start?
Power wheelies? or clutching it in 1st?

what sort of rpm and speed should i be starting at to work myself up?
Im on a thundercat 600.

any advice that will stop me killing myself, others and the bike would be great.

Id like to get some of you sparks if you would be so kind.


Steve.
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[Rookie]

Thundercat wheelies are great.

Pull off in 1st gear. Make sure you're warmed up properly, or you'll put some undue strain on the engine.

Now 8k is the powerband kick in, but I find it easier to accelerate to 7k and then wrench the throttle back. There's not a great need to go all the way back, especially when you're just starting. About 3/4 throttle should see the front wheel lift slightly. At 7k you'll have a much slower, controlled lift. I find if I pull at 8k the front just rockets up and I brick it, and it slams back down. If I go at 7k I can get some decent, sustained wheelies going before I run out of power, because it doesn't ever reach the balance point. You can feel it struggling to gain height, so there's no 'Poo! Better stop!' thought. You just keep it there until it runs out of steam.

Basically just pull the throttle back at 7k or so, don't be a pussy about it. You'll definitely feel the front wheel lift and you'll snap it shut. The art is mastering that snap impulse and keeping it on a bit, to sustain the wheelie a bit. I'm still working on that, and I do maybe 20 or so wheelie attempts a week, for the last 4 months.

[Gazdaman]

20 wheelies a week x 4 months = new head bearings.



Gaz

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[steveh]

cheers for the replys just starting to get used to it, but im clutching it all the time, not sure why i feel better doing it, altho it does feel very unpredictable.

Im just really worried about fliping it


Steve.
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[off topic]
Were you at ace cafe yams?

Thought we saw your bike, but didn't notice you .

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[GearboxGeezer]

Whys your bike in bits, did you crash?

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[mad4it028]

this is how i wheelie(you will find your own way)
1..roll the throttle hard
2... as soon as the wheel lifts knock it in to 2nd with out useing the clutch
3.. now very light adjustments on the throttle ((roll dont snatch)
to keep your balance point
4... always cover the rear brake if you get to high press brake
5... if 2nd gears not fast enough 4 ya repeat step 2 in to 3rd gear


most importantly take your time it wont all come at once ive been wheelieing for years and still fucked up the other week on a 250cc crosser n broke my shoulder
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[DEN MONKEY]

[Misc]

When shuld you pull/get on the throttle on a R6, i think the powerband is 10k?

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[Misc]

Hopfully i'll try & won't brick it.

[jonboy22]

I've not intentionally wheelied yet but a couple of times have filled my kecks when over taking in second cracking the throttle open, going up for third but only finding second again, oh and the nose hoiking up off the tarmac.

I'm on a Gixxer 600 so assume that if I want to I can just twist it fully open in first at around 6k-7k??

To be honest though I think I would much prefer the clutch method but at the moment I'm just getting jolted forward and there's not alot else going on .

[Zanith]

Does this sort of stuff work on all 600's or would it only apply to super sport's?

I.E would it work on a 1999 Fazer 600.

I've been interested to try sometime in the near future but wanted to find a safe location to learn first.

[Gazdaman]

The 'lesser' 600s i.e bandits fazers etc can wheelie for sure.

It'll just need a bit of clutch abuse to get it up to the balance point. I've only ever had the front up off power on the bandit once.

And that was in first and only skipped along the ground.

Gaz

[phk6]

i wheelied my cb with a little bit of cluth off the lights which i dint expect it to do as it was a copmplete accident, and i dint think a 33bhp cb would wheelie that easy, i shat my kegs lol
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[steveh]

getting frustrated, as im only popping the front clutching in first, its not the bike its me, perhaps the ste isnt ment to wheelie


Steve.
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[hazza]

so when you sell your bikes sparks do you say 'one careful owner'?

lol watched the video id cry if i dropped my bike like that
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