Seized swingarm bolt removal

[Richard1987]

Hi, Whilst my bike is off the road, i have decided to clean the whole bike up a bit as it was looking a bit manky in those "hard to reach" places
This is the bolt which is causing me some grief now
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/parsons2005/54ab10d1.jpg

The nut on the other side (also helps to hold the exhaust) comes off nice and easy.
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/parsons2005/c244c6dd.jpg

Tried hitting it but not that hard as to damage the threads
Any ideas?

Thanks, Richard

"sorry for the crappy pics. think i got a little bit too close"
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[Jebus]

bit of heat mabye that can help or loads of penertration fluid, tried putting a decent socket on it and jumping on the ratcheted one swift kick or hit can help disloge it more than pulling hard
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2nd time around CBT: 8/9/11
125 Varadero

[syl]

Heat, penetration fluid (there's far better stuff than WD40) or impact driver.
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[Richard1987]

Dont have access to heat till monday, cant wait that long
Dont like the idea of jumping on a rachet, sounds like the ideal way to round off a head by doing that
Might just leave it stuck and leave swingarm attached.
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[Jebus]

jump the wrong word, a quick stamp is all that needed.
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2nd time around CBT: 8/9/11
125 Varadero

[Bezzer]

Don't hit the bare spindle, put the nut back on as far as you can but leaving a bit of space behind it so it can move, put a piece of hardwood or soft alloy, if you've got it, over the nut and hit that. If the nut is nearly full on you can give it a fair clout without damaging the threads.
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I used to be indecisive but now I'm not quite so sure.

[finpos]

There's a couple of old threads about getting those bloody things out. When they get stuck, they get proper stuck because they rust into the bushes or bearings burried pretty deep inside the swingarm. That means "gentle" methods won't work on it and you have to resort to a sledgehammer and accept you're going to end up breaking something.

Although I did once get one out by soaking it diesel for 2 weeks

Unless you are really comitted, just leave it as is and work around it.

finpos.

[crazymotorbik...]

Hey,

I had the exact same problem a few months ago. The only way i got mine out was using a Hydraulic Pusher/Puller.

If you can borrow one of these u'll have it out in under 10 minutes.

Cheers,
Shaun.

[T1z3R]

had the same problem on my CRM. simon (babykat250) took the frame to college and removed it with their gear.
it'll likely need replacing anyway if its that stuck so try a 3/8th extension against the end of the bolt and hammer it out.
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[Whosthedaddy]

Sorry, I'm confused.

Is the bolt seized and wont turn, or is the spindle seized and cant be hammered out?
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[Richard1987]

Its the actual spindle that goes through the swingarm and through the frame, The nut is free

Ive got it to move about 1 - 2 mm by hitting it hard with a hammer on the thread side, but its still Very stuck
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[Whosthedaddy]

I did'nt have any problems with removing my rear spindle, just some good hard taps with a hammer. Hit it, dont just tickle it

You could always place a piece of wood against the metal so as not to damage the threads too much. I found that using something like a socket head or extension was handly for hammering it out once its 'enetered' the frame, then just wiggle and pull with clamps from the other side.

Good luck
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[finpos]

Fill the gaps on both sides of the spindle with penetrating fluid, knock it back in, wait a few hours, try again.

If you get another mm out of it, repeat until it comes out/you get bored

finpos.

[Whosthedaddy]

[Richard1987]

my other H100 was never this bad, small tap and it was free. It is moving a little more with wd40 and more hitting, so ill carry on with that for now

I guess ill be back later to ask about re-threading
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[Whosthedaddy]

Just give a damn good greasing before refitting and it'll be fine next time.
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[Richard1987]

The wheel was out when i tried it, but put it back in after i had 1/2 given up with it
Then taken some snaps / cried for help

Well its moved about 2 inches, but its still stupidly tight, ive just put it back and will leave it for now, Thanks for the help and advice

Richard
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[Jubal]

If you've moved it 2" you have no problems, it's when they don't move at all is the time to worry.