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 Method World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 12:26 - 27 Dec 2006 Post subject: Sadam Hussain... |
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Now im not normally one for politics and that, but i saw this story on the news last night about his execution...
I dont know how to feel about this... I mean this person has nothing to do with me on personal level, obviously. I dissagree completely with the whole iraq situation yada yada yada, but that kind of has nothing to do with this court case.
I'd never realy paid much attention to this guy before Iraq came about, i mean i heard his name etc on the news a bit, but i wasnt even born when he carried out these attacks on his own people.
I blame him personally for us having to go to war in Iraq, not Bush or Blair, because if Hussain wasnt there then there wouldnt be a need for the war etc. So for that reason alone i believe he is solely to blame...
But i heard that he is going to be exectued. Ok i thought, that makes sense i suppose in this day and age, and expected some kind of electric chair etc... But then i read on the BBC that he is being sent to the gallows? Now it could just be me, but isnt that a bit old for us now? I know its iraq etc, and it isnt the most advanced country in the world, but surely hanging someone is a bit 16th century?
I dont realy know what to think about the whole mess, i feel kind of releived that he is going to finally come to an end, but then at the same time, i feel a kind of emptyness, knowing that it is all going to be over for him... Knowing that he wont have any worries and nothing he has done will affect him any more - its almost like a releif for him? Where as the innocent families of those that have died because of him will have to live the rest of their lives in pain and misery, without the loved one(s) they spent their life raising...
I was hoping that typing all this would help me come to some kind of decision, or at least clear things up in my own head - but it hasnt
What do any of you lot think? Or do you even care? Maybe someone elses prespective could help clear a few things up for me... I mean i dont pretend to understand everything that is going on with this whole mess. Like i said earlier, i wasnt even born when the "incident" he is on trial for was carried out, so im sure certain aspects are lost on me...
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 Posted: 13:06 - 27 Dec 2006 Post subject: Re: Sadam Hussain... |
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| Method wrote: | I blame him personally for us having to go to war in Iraq, not Bush or Blair, because if Hussain wasnt there then there wouldnt be a need for the war etc. So for that reason alone i believe he is solely to blame... |
We are in US UK pretty much put him into power and supported him against Iran , "pity there can't be two losers I remember in an old book".
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Now it could just be me, but isnt that a bit old for us now? I know its iraq etc, and it isnt the most advanced country in the world, but surely hanging someone is a bit 16th century?
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Hanging is the slowest method of execution* , and if they purposely use an incorrect drop it can last 10+ minutes , even if it does break your neck the nerves above the neck can still feel pain , and according to one of my ME friends the heart and brain can function for 10-15 minutes after the break ,
It is considered bad form to use too long a drop that takes the head off , so in British drop hanging the prisoner would be carefully weighed and the rope put slightly longer for the condemned's weight , to break the neck quickly. But as said neck breakage does not mean instant death!.
Being shot blows a huge carrot shaped cavity and cavitates your flesh (cooks it) , killing you quickly , cyanide (gas chamber) causes cellular suffocation in minutes,
a bloke with an axe who is good 8-30 seconds (head lives on though experiements the french did where they picked up the head and gave it a slap had various results).
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I dont realy know what to think about the whole mess, i feel kind of releived that he is going to finally come to an end, but then at the same time, i feel a kind of emptyness, knowing that it is all going to be over for him... Knowing that he wont have any worries and nothing he has done will affect him any more - its almost like a releif for him? Where as the innocent families of those that have died because of him will have to live the rest of their lives in pain and misery, without the loved one(s) they spent their life raising...
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Kill one dictator make friends with another , what was that country now? , Kurgestan? , where one of our Diplomats was called back after he complained about torture and rendition and massive human rights abuses there. Once they become useless to us or start getting too big for their shoes , we will get rid of them an install new dictators.
*when I say slowest I mean of the main 'modern' (oxymoronic?) execution methods not withstanding medeval execution techniques which could take hours or days. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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I think it is very difficult for those of us not directly related with the situation to decide what the outcome of his trial should be. I feel that hanging the man is somehow wrong, and yet I try to tell myself that it isn't my decision to make - it is that of his country's and their new system.
The war was intended to help the people of Iraq to become more independent and self-ruling. They have this now, and are using it to punish their former leader. ____________________ Avast! Pirates ahoy!
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why not shoot him? Surely thats the quickest? ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
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They could always just stick him back in the hole they found him in, and seal it. With maybe Bush and Blair in there with him  ____________________ Current: CB500 Previous: CB100N, CB250RS, XJ900F, GT550, GPZ750R/1000RX, AJS M16, R100RT, Enfield Bullet
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whilst i do agree killing him will cause a lot of unrest, it will make an example, not a martyr of him.
regardless of his age, what he has done through out his life warrents this penalty against him.
i imagine it's easy to sit on the fence and proclaim he shouldn't be put to death when what he did had no real effect on you. but imagine how it was for all the people that because of his decisions were killed/tortured. ____________________ Sahf East Winnah 4LYF
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| h00dwink wrote: | our government can be a bit crap with taxing and whatnot, but it's not like you, your family and friends will be tortured and killed if you or someone you know bad mouths new labour. |
not yet anyway , see that terrorist scum bag Pam Warren? , how dare she survive a train crash?.
Or that journo who was sacked from the BBC , whos name escapes me at the moment , where the government press office said he was suicidal and was depressed , he immediately rebuked this , probably as he would have been found to have conviently suicided in a forrest if he had not rebuked it.
Added to the fact that police have a licence to shoot people without repremand (ie the bloke with the table leg who was shot in the back of the head) , as said they can't not yet anyway.... ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 357 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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