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 Posted: 12:56 - 05 Jan 2007 Post subject: Define high mileage |
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Dispatch riders need not respond!.
But for different kinds of bikes and I mean not rebuilt engines whats high mileage? ,
for commuters/courier bikes I think anything over 100K is high mileage
For super sports I like to think 25-35 k is high milage (nearing a major an expensive service),
for everything else it falls in between this.
Though alot of people think my 60+K is high for an NTV its not even run in yet.
Any thoughts?
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When i'm looking at second hand bikes, i'm instantly put off once I see a bike above 20,000 miles.
Obviously this is dependant on the bike. If I saw a Bandit with 40,000 miles, I would probably consider it. If it was a sportsbike and it has 15,000 on it, I would need to be persuaded.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Mileage doesn't bother me in the slightest, I go for the overall condition of the bike/car, mechanically and cosmetically.
As long as its looked after then mileage shouldn't be an issue.
100K miles on a car is nothing at all on the modern day engines, but for some reason it seem to have stuck over the years. ____________________ ZXR750R (M2) - For the road.
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Hi
Bikes we have at the moment with highish mileages. FZ750 has 68k, 1200 Bandit has 55k, FZR600 has 48k, GPZ500 about the same, ZZR600 has about 35k.
Mileage alone doesn't really bother me, but I would expect the bike to be cheaper because of it. There are some bikes which have known likely issues at certain mileages (early GPZ500 has about 20k per flywheel, ZZR600 seems to manage about 30k before 2nd gear screws up), but generally nothing too nasty.
Bigger problem is how they have been treated, and to an extent age for some items. For example, the 6 pot calipers used on various Kwaks and Suzukis do not seem long lived, and although not difficult to clean up the bill for 12 pistons and their seals is a silly amount.
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| hazza wrote: | 50-125cc if its two stroke anything at 15k i wouldnt touch, especially 'sports' bikes like the rs because its time for a new piston |
Piston and rings with a gasket set is about £100 from a decent supplier. Gentle afternoons work. Do it yourself and it costs less than a minor dealer service on a 4 cylinder 4 stroke.
| hazza wrote: | anything over 500cc i dont think milage would be an issue its just general condition, i wouldnt think anything of buying a 1 litre car with 70,000 miles on it so why not a bike? |
Maybe rather less. Have heard that Hondas design life expectancy for a CBR600 is 30k (not sure I believe it), so 70k is well in excess of that. However, treated well then they will easily exceed that.
To be honest, more of a concern is how previous owners have treated the bike. If someone starts the engine and revs it hard from cold, or leaves it idling for ages to warm up then they are likely to seriously shorten the engine life, but without a lot of checking there isn't really a way to tell. Same for gearboxes. Watch a track day and see the way some riders just stamp down the gears, and with no attempt to blip the throttle to give the rest of the transmission an easier time.
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3500 miles?!!!! I do 12480 alone on my commute , not including offsite work.
add in ride outs I push about 30K a year , hmm no wonder the bike is starting to
fall to bits and is held together with gaffa tape and cable ties....
Hmm interesting reading , I'm just mulling over 7 difference ZX6Rs and ZX7Rs,
one has 28000km and is going for £1800 (1998)
one has 32K and is going for £1450 (1999)
one has 30k and is going for £1350 (1997)
the ZX7Rs are all 1999 models around £2000 with 15K on them
probably why I consider it borderline criminal to commute on super sports!. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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I admit I'd be slightly off put by 30,000+mile bikes, only because theres plenty of <15,000mile bikes out there. I know the chances are it'll be fine assuming it's been looked after. As it happens my last 3 bikes have all had 12,000miles when I bought them! ____________________ My bikes are at https://www.bikepics.com/members/dynamight/ |
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I personally wouldn't be to bothered about a bike that has high mileage, say 50k+. As long as it has been serviced and maintained I would have no problem with buying a bike with such mileage. At the moment my 1989 cbr400 has around 35.5k on it and the 1995 xr250r has around 6k. Not to bad really, especially the cbr which is only about 2k per year lol.
My dad keeps been put off with buying cars that have 80-100k on them as he thinks there going to break down any time soon. Although I've been telling him that modern engines can last a hell of a lot longer.  ____________________ Humans....the largest form of cancer the world has ever seen!
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So whats the point of a choke then Kieth?  ____________________ Humans....the largest form of cancer the world has ever seen!
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Old Thread Alert!
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