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Louise
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Jack Up Kits Reply with quote

Looking into getting a Jack up kit for the Bandit to make it look a bit better.
But what are the Pros/cons?
The only con I can find is if im short in the leg it could pose as a problem but im not, im 5'11.

So before I buy, are there any other cons anyone can think off?
How easy is it to fit?! States 30 mins - which possibly means 2 hours for me Rolling Eyes
This is for the Bandit 600

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PostPosted: 09:40 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to fit them your self then make sure you have a way of raising the rear end of the bike off the ground, this means without a paddock stand. Ideally you want to be able to hang it from the garage ceiling or something, failing that just lie the bike down. They shouldn't be too hard to fit and it does look quite good if you compliment the raised rear with a small plate. Wink

I've considered doing it to the FZR, sadly I don't think there's a garage roof built that could support the weight of the bike. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It shouldnt take too much doing at all. You will need some way of lifting the bike without using the swingarm. There are loads of ways to do this. the easiest being using the centre stand (if the bike has one). If not you can use axle stands on the frame, hoist it from a girder in a roof, lift it with an engine hoist, use a swingarm spindle stand, or a hydraulic bike lift. Alternatively you could loosen off the bolts and get a strong mate (or couple of strong mates) to hold it up. Obviously it depends how rusted in the bolts are, but if you get on with it its a 5 minute job, never mind 30.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had them on my bandit 600 K3 but I didn't like it due to being short and making the sidestand fairly hard to use. I've still got the bits if you want the kit you can have it for a tenner + postage?

Overall my opinion is if you really like the look of it then do it, but if it doesn't appeal lots then don't bother

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PostPosted: 13:30 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be more unsteady at speed, I lifted the rear on my Blackbird, it turned into the corners quicker but didn't feel as steady when the pace picked up.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I changed the rear shock I just put a jack underneath where the centre stand used to be attached. Seemed stable enough to me! I also had my paddock stand where it should have been just not touching the swing arm. Worked fine for meeee
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have thought they'd look 'better'.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacked up back ends are soooo 1990's darling. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they lol?
My bike seems level 0 just flat, but the photos ive seen, to me make the bike look 10 times better Confused
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My back shock was so knackered it looked really low and bounced like a trampoline.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
I've considered doing it to the FZR, sadly I don't think there's a garage roof built that could support the weight of the bike. Crying or Very sad


The steel frame does make it a little on the hefty side of things.

Without a paddock stand, I just used 2 axles stands, changing out the dog bones took all of 30 minutes and that included me doing it wrong at first.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 07 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have axle-stands you can pull the pins from the footpegs and turn the pegs over then put the stands under them. Makes it very stable.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 07 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did this to the thundercat, was a piece of piss.

some swing arms work in different ways, i.e longer dog bones jack it up on mine, but longer dogbones lower it on the bandit..

Put the bike on the paddock stand, get a bottle/trolley jack, and pump it up till it takes the wieght of the rear wheel and paddock.
Stand also acts as a saftey measure if it does go down.

if you have crash bungs, do what i do, get a couple of axel stands and place them under each one ( may need a little bit of wood underneath to get the hight)

remove, and replace the dog bones.
Its a 15 min job, if that.
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 08 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

louise get a abba stand(which no 1 seems to have said about) & you can do all & more on the bike then any paddock stand & then when u change bikes u just change/buy new adaptors

abba stands lift the bike up from the frame area & although they go into the swing arm pivots you just get the other adaptors that attach to the rearsets bolt holes so swingarm can be taken out/off if you wanna do even more Wink
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been looking again

There are 35, 40 and 50 mm Jacks. What would be best?
Im not a speed freak but tend to stick around 80-90
Im 5'11 - Dont want the bike to look stupidly high that it looks weird.
Also, Main stand plus a jack is all I have Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Shaun wrote:
I've considered doing it to the FZR, sadly I don't think there's a garage roof built that could support the weight of the bike. Crying or Very sad


The steel frame does make it a little on the hefty side of things.


A little hefty!? I pulled a muscle in my shoulder trying to move that tank-bike thing!


I'm not a great fan of the looks myself - they are a bit 1990 Streetfighter-magazine style.

The only other con I can think of other than the handling would be how it would feel to sit on. At the moment you'll be upright, with the rear jacked up further there will be more weight through your arms and wrists which could be quite tiring to start with and on longer journeys...
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look on Ebay you should find some that are only 19mm jack up so it will give the arse end a higher look without changing the handling to much.

Plus the higher you lift the arse end the further it leans when on the side stand.

So 19mm is probably the most comfortable and after that it would just get a bit extreme, you have to think that if you go for the 50mm then thats 5cm higher or off the top of my head about 2.5 inches.

With that height you wouldn't be able to use ur center stand anymore.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are the reasons for wanting the jack-up kit?

it will affect handling and stability.

by steepening the head angle, it will turn in quicker, but with a higher center of gravity, it'll also feel less stable.

A similar turn-in effect can be gained by dropping the forks thru the yokes slightly.

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PostPosted: 14:40 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
what are the reasons for wanting the jack-up kit?


Cause its a bandit Wink
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
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what are the reasons for wanting the jack-up kit?


Cause its a bandit Wink


ah.. for tart and pose value, and nothing practical then Wink

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PostPosted: 14:52 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:

ah.. for tart and pose value

No, no. A bandit.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cause its a bandit Wink[/quote]

ah.. for tart and pose value, and nothing practical then Wink

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Not always no, what is wrong with customizing your own bike? Doesnt mean i want to pose its just how i want my bike to look and she obviously wants to customize hers slightly. We all own/ride bikes for our own reasons some people speed some people looks of bike or people that just want to be a bit. different
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

joneze wrote:
Not always no, what is wrong with customizing your own bike?


nothing.. nothing at all..

as long as one is aware of potential handling and stability differences that the customisation can intriduce.

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PostPosted: 15:49 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

feef wrote:
joneze wrote:
Not always no, what is wrong with customizing your own bike?


nothing.. nothing at all..

as long as one is aware of potential handling and stability differences that the customisation can intriduce.

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My apiologies i thought you was having ago as you thought it was wrong to customize your bike.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep will deffo effect handling as feef said

iv dropped forks thro on mine & when swingarm goes back on its having an adjustable shock mount put on Very Happy

so will point into corners NICE but this is what im after tho, hence why so much downgeared aswell cause straights are boring,twisites is where its at!

so loadsa accel & point for me please Thumbs Up Mr. Green

still get an abba @ some point tho louise, u wont regret it Wink
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