Oil change question

[Kris]

First 4-stroke oil change coming up

Just bought some Silkolene Comp 4 10W-40 for the ZXR, is this okay? By the way - when you put a new filter on - how tight should it be? I heard hand tight is enough.


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[MarJay]

As long as its not car oil you should be ok. I'd use a filter wrench to tighten it a *bit* past hand tight I would think.
If you've got semi synthetic that should be fine. Fully synthetic possibly maybe might make the clutch slip, but its rare apparently.
Otherwise its a piece of p*ss.
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[TiN]

NOOOOOOO!! You need good old Bertolli oil, it'll make your engine feel younger over time.

10w40 sounds about right though. As for tightening the filter, try to use a grippy cloth or something to add a bit more leverage.
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[Kickstart@Work]

Hi

I use car oil in the Bandit. Not had a problem with it.

For the filter, oil the rubber O ring (doesn't the instruction on the package "Oil ring and screw until tight" sound a bit dodgy) and then just do it up hand tight. That is hand tight on a clean filter without oily hands though.

All the best

Keith

[Ste]

I topped mine up once with car oil and then waved goodbye to the clutch

[TiN]

I've also read something about actually filling the filter up with oil before screwing it in (as opposed to just lubricating it).

And Ste - I think that a whole combination of factors contribute to your need to change clutches to often.
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[andrew]

hhhmmmm strange, i was running car oil at Elvington and it didnt cause any problems, ive heard mixed things about this. I dont see why it would be any differenent to bike oil if its the same grade??

[TiN]

[andrew]

Ahhhhh okie dookey. So car oil would be fine in a Ducati then?

[Kickstart@Work]

Hi

Probably depends on the actual oil. I am using a BP semi synthetic car oil.

You can fill the filter up first, but it is a bit messy unless the filter mounts vertically, otherwise the oil just tips out again.

All the best

Keith

[Ste]

[Kris]

[Ste]

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[Kickstart@Work]

No it isn't true. Car oils often contain various friction modifiers which wet clutches don't like. Also some modern car oils are not as good as older car oils and bike oils. Various additives that are very good at protecting engines also happen to kill catalytic converters so are now no longer used in car oils.

All the best

Keith

[Doddmaster]

Make sure you use a clean rag to wipe the rubber O-ring on the filter cover before you smear it with oil and put it back on. It has to be more than hand tight, but not much more. I snapped an engine bolt over-tightening the filter cover once

[Kickstart@Work]

Hi

Most bikes these days have a complete disposable filter that you screw on, rather than a filter that lives under a cover.

All the best

Keith

[Stew]

[Doddmaster]

[Kickstart]

Hi

And the rest

The GPZ500 used to have a filter like yours but the changed it for the later style ones. You cannot even get the original filters anymore. The FZ and Bimota both have set ups like yours. Being honest they are a bit of a pain but at least the filters are cheaper (good job as I have about 20 spare bike oil filters floating round).

All the best

Keith
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