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KLR600
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Front sprocket holding on thingy... Reply with quote

Yesterday I managed to snap the chain on my XJ600 (*slaps self*) and the chain seems to have taken the washer thing that goes on between the nut and front sporcket to stop the sprocket from coming loose with it.

Is it super mega dangerous to ride the bike without this washer in place or will I be ok? Is it possible to make one out of an old washer and bend it over the nut?

I'm off to the bike shop to get a new chain in 5 mins so I'll ask if they have a washer while I'm there but if not I feel I may hve to be a bit creative as I need my bike almost everyday for work but luckily I have a day off today.

(this is the washer I'm talking about (this is not my bike, just a random image from the net), you have to fold it over the nut that holds the sprocket in place)

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PostPosted: 16:13 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sprocket retaining nut is more likely to come off if you do without creating another problem if it comes off.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last thing I want to happen is have the sprocket come off!

Right, so don't ride it without one? Will I be ok to make one from an old washer if the bike shop doesn't have one? (I somehow doubt it's the kind of thing people usually stock)
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the sprocket and see if the washer is stuck to it.
I cant see how the chain could remove the washer.

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PostPosted: 16:36 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

As above. Likely the centre of the washer is splined to match the splines on the output shaft of the gearbox. So the washer is locked in place to the shaft and then the edge bent over to lock the nut to the washer.

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PostPosted: 20:03 - 28 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crisis/death semi averted!

The bike shop (Woods in Abergele) had one of the washers in stock and it cost me £1.38!

But upon returning home to fit my new chain and washer I noticed a tooth missing from the front sprocket so I'm going to have to go back there tomorrow for some sprockets now Evil or Very Mad Christ knows where the money is going to come from!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A front sprocket should cost less than a tenner. since they wear much faster than a rear sprocket you should be able to just change the front. Check the condition of the rear sprocket - if the teeth show no signs of wear/hooking then there's no reason to change it.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
Crisis/death semi averted!

The bike shop (Woods in Abergele) had one of the washers in stock and it cost me £1.38!

But upon returning home to fit my new chain and washer I noticed a tooth missing from the front sprocket so I'm going to have to go back there tomorrow for some sprockets now Evil or Very Mad Christ knows where the money is going to come from!


Should be fitting new sprockets with a new chain anyway. It would only wear the chain out faster if you didn't.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 29 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's advisable for best fit but not a necessity, especially if your chain was well inside it's stretch limit when you changed it.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
I still want to know how and where the chain took the lock tab washer Very Happy


I can't sleep until I find out how that happened. Smile

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PostPosted: 06:23 - 30 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely reason is that the last person didn't realise it was a lock washer and didn't replace it.
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PostPosted: 03:24 - 01 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed - to me it seems impossible for the chain to have removed it.
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PostPosted: 03:44 - 01 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy Blake wrote:
Check the sprocket and see if the washer is stuck to it.
I cant see how the chain could remove the washer.

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