ebay's getting there...slowly

[Misc]

Well, still a long way to go but they've made a new change for the better;

[GhostRider]

Forgive my ignorance, I only use Ebay once in a blue moon, but surely stopping sellers from leaving negative feedback for buyers would give toerags who win an item and then decide not to pay/cancel etc a bloody field day??


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[JonB]

So the worst a seller can do is refuse to give feedback?

It's good for me as a buyer.

However now I won't feel so comfortable selling, some people are so picky that now pricks will be dashing out neutrals because of a hairline scratch on an item.
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[thx1138]

ebay is moving from a global carboot sale, to a gloabl Sunday Market - IMHO

[Misc]

I don't know who you all deal with but i never have problem with ebay, buying or selling.
The only thing that pees me off is getting charged fees by both ebay & paypal.

[Villers]

This would stop the type of event that happened to me. Ive only got a feedback score of about 150 but Ive never had a bit of negative feedback until about a year ago when I clashed with a seller.

Id bought an item that arrived a bit tatty (like the box had seen a lot of life) and was missing the charger. I emailed and asked, quite politely, for the charger to be sent to me. This seller refused and told me to send it back for a refund less postage. He had already overcharged on the postage and I was annoyed that he would rather I paid to send it back than send me what I was owed. I twigged that perhaps this guy was making money on the postage by sending out an incomplete package so I refused and he reluctantly sent me a charger, but two months later.

So bearing in mind Id paid instantly, been polite and waited nearly 3 months I ended up giving him neutral feedback. What did I get in return? Negative feedback saying 'Sellers beware', with the offer of a retraction.

Hopefully this kind of arsehole will become less and less common!
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[JonB]

Though as a buyer, I think it will be nice to be able to leave neutral feedback if a seller charges £5 for postage for something that would cost 44p to post and then leaves it a week before sending.
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[Barry_M2]

This is the warning you get before leaving feedback now:

Buyers, you can no longer receive negative or neutral Feedback from sellers.


You should leave honest and accurate Feedback without the fear of receiving negative or neutral ratings.


I guess you can leave any comment you wish (good or bad), but they just don't classify them as Positive, Neutral or Negative anymore.

You can still say the delivery was crap, item never arrived etc.. as it does say you should leave 'honest and accurate feedback'. Interperate as you wish!


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[JonB]

I suppose at the end of the day it is a good thing as it weeds out the shit sellers from the good sellers.

I find individual sellers are better than businesses generally. Obviously because they have less to sell, but if I buy from an individual I can usually expect better communication and dispatch on the same day.
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[The Tot]

Well, once i have an established relationship with a buyer, i just keep using them so there's no problems whatsoever.


Anyway if you look at seller's feedback from my ebay, i got quite a nice surprise which made me LOL

[Rookie]

So they're making this move so buyers can 'leave accurate and honest feedback', yet the measure for this is disallowing sellers the same privilege? It makes nearly no sense to me. It's stinging a majority because of the actions of a minority.

[JonB]

All eBay had to do was not post the feedback until both parties had left feedback to be fair.
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[instigator]

It's fucking bullshit is what it is. And you, presumeably, newbies won't realise it until you are shit on by it. Like I have recently.

Load of bollocks.

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[ncrn]

I've never really understood how a seller giving feedback helps ebay at all, most of the time if a buyer bids on something it seems to be anonymous (well maybe the seller can see I haven't sold for a while), so the seller couldn't really make a judgement.

And even if they did have a negative feedback for something a couple of months ago it wouldn't phase me as well.. I want the money and ebay has things to sort non payers out etc writing seller beware.. doesn't really help anyone IMO.

Also I think its a scheme to get people to sell more, as you can't get a good ebay rating by just buying anymore you have to sell a lot for a good rating, which will also effect new buyers who want to start selling and will have to start from 0 whereas they could of got a few points before by buying items.
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[Villers]

well me, being a newbie (presumably) understand that some people dont have a post office next door. Neither do I, I have to make a trip to town, plus Im a lazy bastard. I also understand that people like to use high postage/low price to offset the fee's, fair enough. Thats why I accept high postage costs. I dont however feel like I have to be dicked about. Recently bought an in car adapter for the missus's iPOD. £2.00 odd plus 2.50 postage. It turned up 8 days later in a plastic bag, sorry but thats shite.

Selling on ebay is a pain in the arse, I understand that posting things cost money, so does a big roll of brown paper and sellotape. In some cases it involves travel, but I doubt it takes people two months and twenty quids worth to get it posted.

Another good thing I like the idea of is deliberately looking for an item in the uk, not japan etc. So when it says member in UK and it comes from overseas six months later I can simply leave negative feedback saying so. Those who openly admit they are overseas are fair play Ive got no problem with that obviously.
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The postage is there for all to see just factor it all into the final price and there shouldn't be an issue. If you don't like it buy from a shop.

I love charging for postage as I get it free from work - nothing like charging a tenner for a DHL then not paying a penny to send it

[Louise]

Thats crap

I sold something, AC -DC converter - everything was correct in the acution, but once the buyer received the item, he didnt like - tried for a refund - never got ( return number false)
I tried everything to please this person..... I did get a negative, I gave him one back... But after reading this, is it really worth selling something risking your feedback.
I like fleebay but each week its just getting worse and worse

[thegubner]

[Tristan.]

It tales a lot more effort on a sellers part than on a buyers, I'm not sure why a positive to a buyer holds the same weight as a positive to a seller, will the new system rectify this?

Recieved a neutral the other week, I bought a seat unit, payed immediatley and it arrived pretty fast, then I was internetless for two weeks, when I got it back I had half a dozen emails requesting I leave feedback so I gave him a positive "good service, (happy now?)" Next day he gives me a neutral "took ages to leave feedback and when he did left a really sarky and unneeded comment" aww diddums, looks like I hurt his feelings.

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If you were feeling particularly nasty, you could set up a new anonymous account, bid on and win one of the sellers items, then leave bad feedback .

[trevoriv]

As a decent volume seller this is bad news as it makes the feedback system practically defunkt and for a lot of volume sellers having a decent feedback percentage was a mark of a decent seller, now it means naff all :/
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