"Performance Chip"

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Hi.

Just a quick question, has anyone ever tried these "performance chips" being sold on Ebay, claiming to increase BHP, torque, acceleration etc etc, such as the listing below...

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but wth no adverse effects to your engine? Sounds a bit far fetched to me, surely there has to be some cons to it? Most of the feedback seems to be that it works but Im still dubious. I've just fitted a Scorpion can & K & N filter to my RSVR so it needs re-mapped anyway. I've booked it in to get it done on the 3rd of June, but I guess I was wondering if these done the same sort of thing.
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[Damon]

Im pretty sure they just make the bike run slightly rich. You will be better off with a powercommanded to be honest (If your bike is fuel injected)

ebay con...

[Steve-D]

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Nuff said.
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[Funkmeister_Smith]

My thoughts exactly.

On the subject of Power Commanders, would having a Power Commander have the same end result as just getting the bike set up properly at a garage (through the ECU etc), or would having a Power Commander give me extra power on top of it just being set up right for the can & filter?
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[tutton]

They run using sensors,
when we had one for a car,
what it does is tell your airflow sensor
that theres more air going to the engine,
the ecu then riches the mixture by loads to compensate.
More fuel = More power = More money on fuel.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

That thing will just screw around with the signals from a couple of sensors and richen the mixture. Might give you a tiny bit of power if the bike is running a tad lean. Suspect the only way you could get 25hp would be claiming 0.25hp at 100rpm, 0.25hp at 200rpm, etc, and then adding all those together.

As to a power commander it allows you to screw around with the signals to and from the ecu, giving an effect very close to remapping the ecu. Most ecus cannot easily be remapped properly although some can (such as most Triumph ones).

All the best

Keith
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[MarJay]

[Pete.]

Yeah it just alters the IAT sensor value to add more fuel. Same can be done with the barometric pressure sensor.

Some cheap nitrous kits point the nitrous jet at the IAT sensor to chill it so that the ECU adds fuel in to compensate for the gas. A good way to eventually melt your engine
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

There are a handful of EPROM chips that alter the igition timing, so when used with a power commander would give you more power.

You also have to consider that the map on the EPROM is designed to work with all mille's with various mods, whereas a PCIII is a bespoke solution and gives optimum performance to your bike and your bike alone.

IMO forget the EPROM crap and just PCIII it. I got 119 out of my 02 mille with a PCIII and Aprilia Race can.
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[krebsy]

Goat-Boy I think has chipped his car and gotten more go out of it. I've the same engine block (resplendant with new head gasket, turbo, pistons and con-rods after the turbo exploded and trollied the engine) so I was thinking of getting it done. Not cheap though...

I was outside at lunchtime yesterday and two blokes were stood around a black CBR600RR with the seat off and a laptop plugged into the power commander box, adjusting the fueling/timings..

K.
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[matt_uk]

If you really wanted to " perfomance chip " your car you can buy them for like 5 quid off ebay if you look, although i personally wouldnt.
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[Ravo]

The RSVR has more horsepower than a Honda Civic. Why do you need to chip it again? Just wondering...

[Tango675]

[Doddmaster]

On the Harley forum I use, there are loads of people with similar set-ups on their V-Rods so a lot of them make their own PCIII maps up and share them

[Funkmeister_Smith]

Thanks for all the replies.

I defo wont bother with the chip, sounds like it may have more cons than it lets on! I suspected as much mind seeing as its only £20 or less.

I'll see what happens after the garage take a look at it & re-map it. They were pretty confident that it'd give me a noticable increase in power (and no flat spots). I'm also going a tooth down on the front sprocket so that should make her a bit nippier too! I'm not particularly fussed about breaking the sound barrier, so I'd rather have better acceleration with a lower top speed.

Cheers!
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