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bunglehaze
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 30 Jul 2008    Post subject: Gearbox got confused Reply with quote

Hi folks, I have just had the wierdest experience after atking my bike out today, I got on and rode out of my alleyway in first just fine, got to the main road and struggled to find second, then it would not go into first without a crunch at which point I noticed the lever felt like it was jammed up.

Anyhoo, I carried on trying to shift up and got no joy so pulled into a petrol station to take a look and see if there was anything obvious, I turned off the bike and tried to hand shift up through the gears - again first and second only and a wierd crunch type feeling as I did.

Then I couldnt find neutral at all and my bike will not allow me to start up with the clutch lever in which I dont quite understand, anyway after a bit of manual persuading of trying 1st to second for about 10 minutes it found neutral again so I started her up to try and ride around and see if I could get any more movement, third came a bit crunchy but eventually happened and then I could get the rest so I got my gear on and rode off steadily to see what happened.

After shifting through the entire box it suddenly went silky smooth, no clunking or notchiness at all, just sweet shifts.

Anyhoo, I am obviously a little concerned how this might have happened and if there is a possible cause for it that would need looking at, all I can think is that it got tangled up for some reason as the box now feels better than it ever has done before.

Any suggestions on what might have happened?

cheers

leigh Very Happy
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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would appear that you aren't aware that Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike isn't moving..
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
It would appear that you aren't aware that Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike isn't moving..


not true, my ZZR6 does both when moving if i want it to ...
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but as per original post it wouldnt go past 2nd while moving in the first place, THEn wouldnt find neutral.

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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

calum17 wrote:
not true, my ZZR6 does both when moving if i want it to ...

& what exactly does that have to do with what I posted? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
calum17 wrote:
not true, my ZZR6 does both when moving if i want it to ...

& what exactly does that have to do with what I posted? Rolling Eyes


you said kawasaki's dont go into neutral or first when the bke is moving ... but mine does. so it's not all kawasaki's that dont do it.
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
It would appear that you aren't aware that Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike isn't moving..


Why? Confused
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

have these last few comments helped to answer the original question? no its just a bickering war! sorry dude cant help on your problem,it just annoys me when you ask a simple straight foward question and some numptys start a "yes you can no you can't"!!!
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

daywalker wrote:
have these last few comments helped to answer the original question? no its just a bickering war! sorry dude cant help on your problem,it just annoys me when you ask a simple straight foward question and some numptys start a "yes you can no you can't"!!!


Not really it seems like one bloke can't grasp the word "isn't" and thats it.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

change ur oil and filter and look for any metle fileings sounds like it may have eaten a tooth or 2 something not right there drain it and see whats in it dont ride it till you have done it or if you have got fielings ur going to be throwing them all round the motor doing all kinds of nasty ness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.kris wrote:
change ur oil and filter and look for any metle fileings sounds like it may have eaten a tooth or 2 something not right there drain it and see whats in it dont ride it till you have done it or if you have got fielings ur going to be throwing them all round the motor doing all kinds of nasty ness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Eh? In English please. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Eh?


bruv change oil bruv before engine goes bang mate, sound yeah?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 01 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
Finglonga wrote:
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bruv change oil bruv before engine goes bang mate, sound yeah?


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PostPosted: 01:45 - 02 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

calum17 wrote:
you said kawasaki's dont go into neutral or first when the bke is moving ... but mine does. so it's not all kawasaki's that dont do it.

Are you having a bit of trouble with basic reading comprehension? That's the exact OPPOSITE of what I posted you doofus.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 02 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattgirv wrote:
Why? Confused

So you can easily find neutral without doing a Fred Astaire impression on the shift lever.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 02 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming its the bike in your avatar, i had the same prob with my J2 (same bike with different size engine) just grease all around the gear change lever with a quality grease. The problem is they are open to the elements and grit etc can get in them and this causes the problme you described i once had to ride 10 miles in 2nd gear on fast duals to get home, greased it and it was fine.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 02 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
calum17 wrote:
you said kawasaki's dont go into neutral or first when the bke is moving ... but mine does. so it's not all kawasaki's that dont do it.

Are you having a bit of trouble with basic reading comprehension? That's the exact OPPOSITE of what I posted you doofus.... Rolling Eyes


No it isn't.

You wrote:
"It would appear that you aren't aware that Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike isn't moving.."

I.e:
Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike IS STATIONERY.

And the chap replied:
"Not true, mine goes into n/1 when the bike is moving (i.e not stationery).
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 02 Aug 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

steppen22 wrote:


No it isn't.

You wrote:
"It would appear that you aren't aware that Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike isn't moving.."

I.e:
Kawasaki's will only go into 1st or neutral when the bike IS STATIONERY.

And the chap replied:
"Not true, mine goes into n/1 when the bike is moving (i.e not stationery).


Good fucking grief there are some pedantic fucking morons on this forum.

OK, let me word it thusly:
When the bike is NOT MOVING it will only go into 1st or neutral. Which is why these same fucking morons end up tearing apart Kaw engines they have just rebuilt when they *test* the gearbox with the engine sat on the workbench. It's not unknown for some of these same brain donors to do it 3 or even 4 times.
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