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PostPosted: 12:09 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: im only 18 and already im going nowhere Reply with quote

ever since i was young ive always wanted to go to uni and do medicine, recentley i got kicked out of chemistry classes at school (small dissagreement with the teacher) ive spoke to him many times about coming back onto the course and each time he just tells me to get out without even listening to me, and the head of year at my sixth form hates me too so hes not looking to do me any favours in fact hes just waiting for his chance to kick me out, im a a-grade student and the teachers no that, i put the work in but dont respond well to authority and pointless school rules, the way i see it teachers dont automatically deserve respect they need to earn it just like everyone else. the problem is there is 100% no chance i can get back onto the chemistry course and without the schools help i will not be able to get the grade. i honestley dont know what to do with my life i could go into electronics easily enough, i could pick up a sponsorship for a uni course in electrical enginerring easily and crusie through uni, but i really dont want to do it Sad electronics does nothing for me , i want a job where i can enjoy my work and take pride in it, whats the point in doing anything if you cant do what you really want to ? everything else is just a consolation prize

im having a mid life at 18 , i smoke cronic amounts of drugs and have touched on class a's a few occasions, i jsut feel like my lifes voer before its even began

just need to talk really


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PostPosted: 12:18 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: im only 18 and already im going nowhere Reply with quote

chillpill wrote:
....im a a-grade student....


Except in English, right? Wink

The teachers do a hell of a job trying to teach people like you every day, who think the teachers should 'earn' their respect. Carry on the way you're going and you wont be an A-grade student for much longer. No matter how much you think they are against you, they aren't, and you saying you cant accept authority and pointless rules are just making it harder for yourself. Chances are you won't get very far if you carry on with your current attutude.

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PostPosted: 12:32 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will never be in medicine if you have the attitude of a cunt. Simple as. Get off your high horse and show some humility.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the above post.

If you're really serious about getting somewhere in life then get your head out of your arse and get rid of the attitude that the world owes you something.

Forget the drugs and clean yourself up.

Teachers aren't stupid and I bet the ones you claim hate you, are in fact just sick of students like you who think they already know it all...

It's not the school that has let you down, it's yourself Thumbs Up

(The above may be harsh but it's as I see it!)
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lay off them class A's maaaaaaaaaaaaan Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 12:59 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: im only 18 and already im going nowhere Reply with quote

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ever since i was young ive always wanted to go o uni and do medicine, recentley i got kicked out of chemistry classes at school (small dissagreement with the teacher) ive spoke to him many times about coming back onto the course and each time he just tells me to get out without even listening to me, and the head of year at my sixth form hates me too so hes not looking to do me any favours in fact hes just waiting for his chance to kick me out, im a a-grade student and the teachers no that, i put the work in but dont respond well to authority and pointless school rules, the way i see it teachers dont automatically deserve respect they need to earn it just like everyone else. the problem is there is 100% no chance i can get back onto the chemistry course and without the schools help i will not be able to get the grade. i honestley dont know what to do with my life i could go into electronics easily enough, i could pick up a sponsorship for a uni course in electrical enginerring easily and crusie through uni, but i really dont want to do it Sad electronics does nothing for me , i want a job where i can enjoy my work and take pride in it, whats the point in doing anything if you cant do what you really want to ? everything else is just a consolation prize

im having a mid life at 18 , i smoke cronic amounts of drugs and have touched on class a's a few occasions, i jsut feel like my lifes voer before its even began

just need to talk really


So...... a small disagreement with a teacher sees you banned from the class?? Also, for reasons unexplained the head of year hates your guts and cant wait to kick you out? Hmmm, methinks theres more to this story.

Smoking 'chronic' amounts of drugs is probably not helping your issues here either, give it a rest for now, plenty of time to do that when your not trying to get into medicine.

As for not responding well to authority, you might want to think of the authority that will be above you in the realms of medicine, you will have to answer to people who wont stand to listen to your shit , probably because someones welfare is more important that squabbling with you.

You are showing your age and ignorance by claiming that you can "just do electrical engineering and cruise" and easily getting sponserships etc. I really dont think you have any idea of the work involved or even the scale of complexity of the work you may come upon.

In summary, before sorting out your life, you'd do very very well to sort of your detritus attitude because if you carry on in this stubborn fashion then you really will not go far at all, and could well be posting here in 5 years time asking "why was I such a twat?"

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PostPosted: 13:00 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As all have said above, cut the attitude and you'll go a long way... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude there's plenty of time to hit the class A's in your late 20's when you have more cash lying around and have set up a small network of fuck buddies.

Just chill, stay relatively clean, get your head down and accept the fact that some people won't like you, some people will be mean to you and some people will treat you like shit and at your age, more often that not, there's bugger all you do about it.

Take it on the chin, grow up and enjoy life Karma Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:22 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:
Dude there's plenty of time to hit the class A's in your late 20's when you have more cash lying around and have set up a small network of fuck buddies.

Plus, once you grovel your way back into your chemistry classes, get an A in that and a few other subjects, get into medical school and get a job as a doctor, you'll have easier and cheaper access to these said drugs.

Doubt you'd be able to walk into any sponsored uni programmes these days or waltz your way through a degree without doing any work.

Also, unless you own your own company, you'll always have somebody higher up in authority than you, so you've got to learn to deal with it and, even if you don't respect their authority because they're incompetent, you still need to convincingly fake it to get anywhere in working life.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teachers aren't again students?

I got put in Isolation today for using the car exit to the car park, instead of the pedestrian exit.

Despite the fact that the pedestrian exit was magnetically locked and the exit button wasn't opening it.

And this is after they refuse to give me a locker and won't let me do Physics.

I'm seriously considering getting my AS year out the way and doing an apprenticeship.

Takes the piss. Also our school isn't offering A-Level IT, just BTEC.

I'm sorry if you think teachers are out there to help us. They aren't. Confused

2 Hours in a room, missing out on IT work I need just to pass my course as I used the only exit and others who were walking out at the same time as me don't get anything.

Also try and find an evening course at a College for A-Level Chemistry Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or course the teachers are there to help you Fnatic, they are only human too. They wouldn't be there if they were against the pupils. Granted there are some bad teachers, but there's only 1 or 2 in every school.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Or course the teachers are there to help you Fnatic, they are only human too. They wouldn't be there if they were against the pupils. Granted there are some bad teachers, but there's only 1 or 2 in every school.


Almost all teachers (especially secondary school) are just muppets who did a degree and figured teaching was an easy job. Very few if any actually did it to make a difference.

All the people I know who went into teaching did it because they were very very weak students.

I wouldn't go into secondary school teaching even if you gave me immunity from any bullshit about bullying/molesting/harassing/beating accusations AND let me hit the parents if they were being arses. As you don't even get that, I very much doubt anyone is in there because they love the little darlings.

If you REALLY wanted to go into proper teaching you'd go to college where you'd only deal with intelligent people who want to be there. And this is the other reason college A-levels are better, the teachers aren't dealing with utter fuckwads the rest of the day (which you then get the bile from no matter how nice a class you are).
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:


you'd go to college where you'd only deal with intelligent people who want to be there.


Id question that tbh, I think half of people who go into college, well from my observations at least, go there because at 16 they havent got a clue what they want to do, so just fill in an application form that some of their mates who seem a bit more sure have done an tag along, after all, at the very least they'll be some decent birds there surely.

Then when it comes to the classroom, you have half who are trying to pay attention and learn something, and half that dont give a shite, piss around, distract others, argue with the lecturer out of boredom, etc etc.

Think you're hitting a decent note with those other points though in all honesty, sad but true.

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PostPosted: 16:08 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: im only 18 and already im going nowhere Reply with quote

chillpill wrote:
im a a-grade student and the teachers no that, i put the work in but dont respond well to authority and pointless school rules, the way i see it teachers dont automatically deserve respect they need to earn it just like everyone else.


You know your problem, you just don't think you need to change.

If you refuse to treat teachers with respect, to the degree that is becomes a problem so that they don't want you in the class, you have gone wrong.

A first step would be for you to realise that you need to behave appropriately and treat people with respect even if you don't respect them, at least if they have power over you.

You may have already made a name for yourself, and even if you change your attitude teachers may not believe you and want to give you a chance.

Another way would be to think fuck em, i can learn better by myself. This would be great if you can pull it off. Learn yourself, put yourself through an exam, and get the A without them.

That would also be great preparation for uni.

Another option is, if you are an awkward little sod, you would probably be quite good in sales jobs. These jobs can be good for people who are a bit socially domineering and are slightly brighter than average. Good money in the short term when you are young, but nothing like the career progression of medicine.

Its not enough to be bright, you need to apply yourself and achieve things that show you are not just bright but capable.

Lots of bright people fuck up, while lots of less bright people are focused and capable and achieve things and so can be trusted with more responsibility.

If your chemistry teacher won't speak to you, write him a letter but only after you have realised that you need to treat him with respect even if you don't respect him.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:

Id question that tbh, I think half of people who go into college, well from my observations at least, go there because at 16 they havent got a clue what they want to do, so just fill in an application form that some of their mates who seem a bit more sure have done an tag along, after all, at the very least they'll be some decent birds there surely.

Then when it comes to the classroom, you have half who are trying to pay attention and learn something, and half that dont give a shite, piss around, distract others, argue with the lecturer out of boredom, etc etc.



The thing is, the same can be said of university in the first year definitely, and probably the second year in my opinion. You tend to find everyone still in uni in the third year will get a 2:2 or up, because they've lasted that long.
The amount of people who fail first and second year is astonishing though.

College wise you may be right, but 16 year olds annoying you are far less annoying then 12,13,14,15,15,17 year olds annoying you. Think about it, they always give the best teachers to the middle groups, the 'average' sets. So the sixth form kids get the teachers who have dealt with 'average' teenagers all day. And they're just a bundle of bloody laughs.

True a lot of people in college were there for a fuck about, myself included, but it settles down quite quickly because most students are happy to tell you to shut the fuck up. My point is, the teachers themselves aren't miserable cunts.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but dont respond well to authority and pointless school rules


Time you learnt to then.....

You think school rules are bad, just wait till you start work. You might not get detention or isolation for breaking rules. You will be out of a job.....

As to being a medical student, i think you are in for one hell of a big shock if you get a place......
School will seem like a walk in the park.

Life is full of stupid and pointless rules, get used to it or you will be spending a lot of time reflecting on how your life could have been, from within 4 walls and a locked door.....
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do the work yourself and put yourself in for the chemistry exams at a local college. Thumbs Up

Or, if you don't know everything already, drop the attitude and you might get somewhere.

And try using some capital letters, full stops, and paragraphs!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: im only 18 and already im going nowhere Reply with quote

chillpill wrote:
im having a mid life at 18 , i smoke cronic amounts of drugs and have touched on class a's a few occasions, i jsut feel like my lifes voer before its even began


Don't worry, I did that at 16 Laughing

Maybe you could think about dropping out of school and going to college instead to do your a-levels?
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:


I got put in Isolation today for using the car exit to the car park, instead of the pedestrian exit.

Despite the fact that the pedestrian exit was magnetically locked and the exit button wasn't opening it.

And this is after they refuse to give me a locker and won't let me do Physics.

I'm seriously considering getting my AS year out the way and doing an apprenticeship.


Same mate, they won't let me do chemistry and physics all because i wanted to drop maths (did it for a week and didnt like it at all).
A teacher that taught me science in year 11 put me up to the higher GCSE science paper at the last minute and only taught me the stuff that will be on the paper. So said, i can only do Chemistry and Physics at AS level if i did maths.
So now im stuck with Applied Science which i dont think will get me into uni Sad

I cant belive they put you in Issolation, your a 6 former not a school kid, you choose to be there, not made to be. A teacher held a few of us back in ICT to complete some work at dinner. I said 'Fair-do's' I did the work and felt better after.

But when a teacher tries to give some people a detention for not doing some work is aload of shit (not me). We are 6 formers now!
If we are failing, kick us out!

In my Science lesson a teacher told a lad to stand up because he was talking. This made me laugh! I would have just told him to leave, not stand up like primary school kid. Ive not had that done in secondary school at all! Never mind college!

The problem here is, they aren't treating us like young adults. Which is something we are, and this is something they should do.

College's are fine, call teachers by the first name, treat you like an adult. But 6 forms (a college attached to a school) are shite! They still treat us like kids!
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 24 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow you are me at 17...



...keep going the way you are and you too in another 17 years could be scraping a living listening to dickheads on the phone, feeling the vein on the side of your forehead pulsing as your first stroke gets ever closer and spending a little part of every day wondering how you will ever be able to explain to your child why you weren't there for them followed by a slightly smaller part of the day wondering how you can stage your own death so that it it looks like an accident because you are worth more to those most important to you dead than alive.

Of course you could always pull your finger out, lose the attitude and have a good life.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 25 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the replys, its good to get some outside vewis on the situation, the first post made me come across as some sort of teacher hater but its only those two teachers that have a problem with me, the rest of my teachers are great. the little argument i had with my chemistry teacher was due to me missing some lessons because of work, i told him i could catch up easily but he wasnt having any of it, the short of it is the argument got a bit heated hes not going to be taking me back into lessons. it wasnt my effort that was in question i was doing all the work they wanted and more

i have aranged with the school to be entered privatley into the exams, which means i have to pay for them and i wont be allowed in lessons, its going to make it alot harder for me but its the only way i can get to where i want, atleast ive got more motive now i want that a in chemistry to wipe that stupid fucking smile of his fat face

electronics would be easy to walk into, the course im doing now at sixth form isnt required by unis as most sixth-forms dont teach electronics, so they love anyone who has done it because all the topics i will of covered will be the first two years of the 4 year uni course

hard drugs have got to stop. theres rarely been a day in the last few years that i havent smoked skunk, im going to take a few weeks off, its not going to be easy for me though ive been smoking since i was 14 i dont think ill totally quit but a massive cut down is defenetley needed to sort my mind out

thanks to all the people that replied ive found the posts really helpfull
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 25 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think you're gonna walk into electronics...


Laughing


They may aswell hand you out the degree mate! You clearly dont need to do four years, what are they on about?! Thumbs Up


Sorry, I understand what you mean, but covering a few topics at college/sixth form is nothing. You might go in with a bit better idea on the basics, but that means jack shit.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 25 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chillpill wrote:
thanks for all the replys, its good to get some outside vewis on the situation, the first post made me come across as some sort of teacher hater but its only those two teachers that have a problem with me, the rest of my teachers are great. the little argument i had with my chemistry teacher was due to me missing some lessons because of work, i told him i could catch up easily but he wasnt having any of it, the short of it is the argument got a bit heated hes not going to be taking me back into lessons. it wasnt my effort that was in question i was doing all the work they wanted and more

i have aranged with the school to be entered privatley into the exams, which means i have to pay for them and i wont be allowed in lessons, its going to make it alot harder for me but its the only way i can get to where i want, atleast ive got more motive now i want that a in chemistry to wipe that stupid fucking smile of his fat face

electronics would be easy to walk into, the course im doing now at sixth form isnt required by unis as most sixth-forms dont teach electronics, so they love anyone who has done it because all the topics i will of covered will be the first two years of the 4 year uni course

hard drugs have got to stop. theres rarely been a day in the last few years that i havent smoked skunk, im going to take a few weeks off, its not going to be easy for me though ive been smoking since i was 14 i dont think ill totally quit but a massive cut down is defenetley needed to sort my mind out

thanks to all the people that replied ive found the posts really helpfull


Yeah dude they also cover DNA structure and function in college, but if I had balled into 2nd year Genetics lectures at uni on that knowledge alone thinking I could rule the roost I'd have had my arse intellectually gaped. Something to think about (I mean in terms of college vs. uni, not my gaping arse Thumbs Up)

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