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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Hand cream - the good stuff Reply with quote

Wanted to put hardcore in the title, but that would probably be asking for trouble on here, going by lately.

I deliver hay and straw, and the baling twine is ripping my hands to shreds after the first hundred or so are handled per day, particularly on the cold days, you see the blood before you feel it.

I need something decent, not some Nivea rubbish that does naff all but make your hands greasy for 10 mins then disappears.

I need something that scottish fisherman or lumberjacks would use, because it works. Along those lines.

Any recommendations please.

NB: Gloves are not an option, they are inefficient and just get stuck everywhere, dropped, soaked through and eventually ripped or lost. Need my hands to toughen up, but to not bleed too much in the process.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neutrogena stuff - it's concentrated (Norweigen fishermen use it).

You can get it unperfumed too.

Good shit. Thumbs Up

https://www.mistrys.co.uk/images/images/Neutrogena_Hand_Cream_3219.JPG_3219.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay hooks FTW

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PostPosted: 22:04 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eucerin

I use it on face but have the had cream also , all this typing really takes it out of my hands. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the same problem, i think due to the cold they just dry and the skins cracks and peels, most hand cremes do diddley squat for me.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Mudskipper said, if you're going for a hand cream Neutrogena is definitely the best.

Might be worth looking into barrier creams rather than hand creams though? Neutrogena will help once your hands are cut/chapped etc but a decent barrier cream may lessen the effect of the damage in the first place.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 19 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Hand cream - the good stuff Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:


NB: Gloves are not an option, they are inefficient and just get stuck everywhere, dropped, soaked through and eventually ripped or lost.



if you ask your other half nicely she can put a length of string through the arms of your coat to stop you losing them. Wink
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt barrier cream would help to be honest Jo.

Gloves would be an obvious thought.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
Neutrogena stuff - it's concentrated (Norweigen fishermen use it).

You can get it unperfumed too.

Good shit. Thumbs Up

https://www.mistrys.co.uk/images/images/Neutrogena_Hand_Cream_3219.JPG_3219.jpg


+1 i use this quite alot after fixing rusty pipes, works a treat Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not done the job, but it does sound to me like better gloves are needed, maybe ones secured at the wrist like motorbike gloves...

surgical spirit toughens up skin, so you could use that instead

all moisurisers or hand creams do, is provide a oil based barrer to moisture escaping from the skin

better to drink more fluids in my opinion

fishermans gloves

https://www.devontackleshop.com/epages/devontackleshop_com.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/devontackleshop.com/Products/78-11000&ViewAction=ViewProductViaPortal&Locale=en_GB

lumberjacks gloves

https://www.smithfarmstores.com/p-1927-wells-lamont-quilted-lumberjack-gloves.aspx
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mistrys.co.uk/images/images/E45_Tube_Cream_2790.JPG_2790.jpg

I swear by this stuff - I use handwashes and gels all day which are pretty much rip your skin to shreds (chemically, not physically mind) and i find that the original e45 cream really helps. Tried the Norwegian Formula stuff, but I thought it was too concentrated for my liking, I prefer the feeling of a good dollop of cream in me palms...ooh er matron!

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PostPosted: 01:21 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to add, I think the hayhooks, are probably the best bet.
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for Neutrogena hand cream.

The next problem you will have is a rash on your forearms where the ends of the hay prickle them. Wearing a long sleeve top and putting a spiral of gaffa tape or PVC tape along the arm below the elbow (on top of the sleeve) works well for this.

You'll be wanting leather knee patches in your trousers too. You can easily knack three pairs of trousers if you are stacking square bales for a week.

I agree, gloves aren't a good option, your hands will cramp if you wear gloves. The only ones you'd get away with are those skintight yellow buckskin ones. They are expensive and almost impossable to get hold of in the UK.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
https://www.mistrys.co.uk/images/images/Neutrogena_Hand_Cream_3219.JPG_3219.jpg


Used some similar stuff when my ankles were several cracked (from wearing flip flops), and that stuff fixed it in two days. The first day I could and see the difference it had made and by the second it was nearly back to normal.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:38 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was definitely going to recommend barrier cream - whilst it generally smells minging you get used to it. It really helped when I was working at hell on earth (heat treatment plant) handling hot metal covered in degreaser all day.

The other thing I used to do, which I suspect you'd be less inclined to try, is wear cotton gloves in bed. Absolutely cover your hands in E45 (really thick) then wear the gloves - the moisturiser will absorb overnight.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
It really helped when I was working at hell on earth (heat treatment plant) handling hot metal covered in degreaser all day.


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PostPosted: 23:11 - 20 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper stop dribbling please. Wink
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PostPosted: 06:25 - 21 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No amount of skipping round the issue of gloves is going to get around the fact that they are the best solution.

As colin said, find some that fasten around the cuff, or get some very close fitting thin leather ones or something.

I use a grand total of 3 different pairs of gloves a day at work for not totally dissimilar reasons. A pair of riggers gloves for dirty work and dieseling, some rubber gloves to go inside and some cheap fleecey gloves for general work. If I don't use them I end up with sore, red cracking skin on my right hand particularly. I also find that if I wash with handwashes of any kind it makes my skin the same, I have to use plain soap at home which is fine.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 21 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atrixo works best for me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
No amount of skipping round the issue of gloves is going to get around the fact that they are the best solution.


I give you half an hour wearing gloves to lift bales before your hands cramp and you have to take them off again.

That's if they don't land up trapped in the string on to of the stack.

If they aren't too waterlogged, you can use a pitchfork.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Size-9-Ansell-Hyflex-11-500-Kevlar-Gloves-45-Pk-10_W0QQitemZ370117256227QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL?hash=item370117256227&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C240%3A1318

They're good gloves, normally get a week or more out of a pair working with steel but they aren't cheap. £45 for 10.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies, I've picked up some atrixo, and have some of that Neutrogena on the way (the Norway flag alone, sells it to me Razz how clever of them).

The key thing is I want my hands to stay supple long enough for them to toughen up a bit, rather than cracking/ripping and then having to start over.

Gloves are fine when dexterity isn't required, but as stinkwheel seems to know, hay bales can be really awkward getting your fingers under the twine in order to pick them up it rules out gloves instantly on all but the loosest bales. We throw them a lot as well, the gloves would get stuck in the bale and sap the kinetic energy out of the throw, just at the worst time.

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Hay hooks FTW


Might be useful for carrying individual bales a distance, but can't see any other use for that, short of hanging dead people from. Thinking Looks a very american idea, introducing a sharp metal object to a dodgy enough problem.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:55 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lack of tools is suprising. Hay hooks and thats it. Big bulldog clip type things with teeth is what you need, now go and invent some proper hay handling tools. Laughing
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