The formula one diffuser thing.

[Fisty]

How on earth can ferrari and co' appeal over something that has been deemed legal? Rah this season is allready pissing me off.

If the FIA ( Ferrari's International Assistance) overturn the desicion and deem them illegal, take away the teams points that are using them then thats it for me. I will never watch F1 again, im getting sick of watching races enjoying them only for the results to change the next week.
The whole Idea of formula one is to develop new technology to make the cars faster, not to strangle the cars and slow them down. It should be about innovation and exploiting the rules. Rah.
Ive followed F1 since I can remember and its just turning into a huge steaming pile of toss.

Bring back the old qualifying, relax the rules and lets see some real racing.

Rah.
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[chris-red]

IIRC, The six wheelers (Tyrells?),weren't band, the tire company (Good Year?) wouldn't put the development into the tyres for the second season.
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[iooi]

What is really needed now is a change of the rules.

Give the teams a engine size. Then say you car cannot be bigger than X,Y,Z and no less than x kilo's. What they do within that area is upto them.
I would also limit the spending per car. Just to make sure that all teams can compete. Pointless having teams on the grid who simply cannot make a car that competitive.
Let each team decide who's tyre's they want to use, makes for interesting racing when this happens. Rather than being forced onto one brand of tyre because they have dropped a load of cash into someone's pocket......
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I reckon a power limit and a weight limit would be ideal. Then just say do what you want. It can run on anything, and in any way.
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[c_dug]

Ive said it before a few times and i'll say it again.

IMO the most interesting way they could re-rule it would be to say, "you have X amount of fuel to do Y amount of laps, your car must have 4 wheels." Those would be my only rules, then everything else is down to the designers, engine type, aerodynamics, tyres, the lot.

I dont know what sort of figures are realistic for F1 but say X was 30 litres and Y was 80 laps, make sence?

c_dug
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

To be fair Le Mans prototype racing is bringing more to the road cars these days than F1 is.


They should bring back a prototype class in endurance bike racing. Prototype endurance racing is the reason we have beam frames and single sided swing arms.
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[Feasty]

I think we should just get rid of F1 completely and replace it with a cross between Scrapheap Challenge and F1.

Whereby every race each team start of with the same tools and same number of members, teams would be situated around a huge scrapheap of allsorts but unable to see each other. They'd be given 10 hours to build a racing car, then the next day they all race round the now redundant F1 tracks and whoever wins gets to chose 1 item off another teams car i.e engine, wheels, seats, chassis. Then it starts all over again with that winning team using the parts it has won previously...
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[Hetzer]

F1, one of the biggest loads of boring wank on TV these days, not far short of horse-racing and golf. It's the sporting world's equivalent of Eastenders.
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[tribal_tiger]

Hurdles, land mines, or maybe each team gets the choice of 1 "wacky racers" add on, be it oil slick, spikes from the back of the car, suspension which shoots up to let you drive over the car in front.

You know it would work!

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Doh, double post!
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[pa_broon74]

I've watched it and he's pretty much correct.

Although I'd be open to entertaining why folks do like it, there seems to be no competition in it; the cars just drone round. Too many laps perhaps? I'm not sure, but the noise is akin to babies crying and that's never good to listen to.

I should temper this post by saying, I do find watching snooker strangely soporific...



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[pistonbroke]

all the teams think that there cars are legal!! but it comes down to how they interprit the rules and more so the reason for the rules??

the issue with the rear diffuser/double diffuser that we will call a DD
is that the intention was to make over taking easier
to do this you have to make the air leaving the back of the car smoother=cleaner this allows the car behind to get closer so it can slip stream the car infront and get a sling shot past it this is mainly down to the floor which is where the diffuser is of course, the wings are almost more of a fine tuning thing as the floor creates the most downforce the rules were that a air dam had to be fitted 300mm inboard from the rear of the car but this year it had to be at the back axle this cuts down the amount of air that can pass through the gap between the floor and road and so cuts the amount of downforce and basicaly the new DD is a hole in the floor infront of the dam which allows the air to get out and pass over a wing and so creates a shit load of downforce but again causes dirty air to leave the car hence reducing the downforce of the car following

the DD was actually designed by the guys at super aguri but when they started to get into £££ troubles the designers went to wait for it wait for it!!!!!!

BRAWN,TOYOTA&williams
the argument about the DD design wasnt really the design but the fact that it went against the intention of the rules and to be fair in that respect the other teams were right as the DD does interfere with the overtaking but I can understand why the FIA voted in favour of it because brawn/honda and toyota and williams didnt get anywhere last year and toyota are going to pull out at the end of this year unless they get a win and its good to see other teams up front it makes it more interesting for the viewers more viewers = more money SHOW ME THE MONEY its always about money at the end of the day aint it


steve
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[pistonbroke]

probably quite a lot as the other teams will be clawing back the points soon fingers X a group of guys at work got 20-1 on button
before the season started I wish I was a betting man but im not

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[G]

Interesting racing?

Get rid of the drivers, and spectators to be on the safe side.

That removes all the worries about the poor-dears hurting themselves because this year's brakes haven't come on as much as this year's engine.

Don't care if they're remote or computer controlled.
Infact, don't really care about much else. Maybe a 'no contact' class and one where they didn't even have that rule .

[Fisty]