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 sandlerandle Derestricted Danger
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 Posted: 18:39 - 17 Apr 2009 Post subject: my new bike |
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hello
i have been out of biking for a year or 2. then by chance seen a cheap bike to which i liked the look of its a aprilia tuareg 125 not beening runing for over a year. the lad i got it off just knowed it as a tuareg but from looking on the net have found they is a es model wind and others.
its a d reg 87
does any one have any info on these bikes or can point me in the right direction. and is it worth doing up, as it stands it in need of a make over
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i paid a small amont for it so dont mind putting a few quid into it. been looking on the net again and i think it has a 123 rotax engine in it. ap1 engine. i am going to get it out side in the light and pull it to bittoday. more photo to follow ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk
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Cool! Haven't seen one of those for donkeys years, should be more than 25bhp if it's the 123 engine. I would say as it cost you so little to start with it may be worth doing it up & getting it running, engine parts for those are still in abundance.  ____________________ Current bikes: suzuki RG125UN wolf. Yamaha MT-07 |
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 sandlerandle Derestricted Danger
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hi again thanks for the replys still cannt find any maneuls or anything which can help me sort this bike biike. i have never tryed to rebuilt a bike back up. i really want to get out on it every one who has seen it says how cool it is and i have had a few people offer to buy it of me but willnt sell it.
today i have put a new battery on it and spark plug turned it on and pressed the start and nothing no lights no starter sound nothing so have taken all the panels of to start looking for the problem. ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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few pics of the wiring which i think is behind the iginistion not coming on.
and a few of the panels tank.if any one can identify the engine from these photos it would help me
i have also go the log book it was imported in 2001 ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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Christ! That looks worse for wear. I'd strip it mate get oit all cleaned up & repaint everything. You'll be able to check all the connectors & such much better with everything off.  ____________________ Current bikes: suzuki RG125UN wolf. Yamaha MT-07 |
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I'm not good at repairing bikes but it looks tough work for me. There are many rusty parts. I hope you sort it out. ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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well i till not ure weather to build it or break it. i till have not identified the engine. i have took some better pics and maybe some one will know which one it is. they is a few parts missing and i cannt find these untill i know which engine it is. ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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I'm afraid buying a cheap better condition bike might cost less than repairing this bike watching these photos. Am I wrong? ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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you got a bargain there.......
the engine is the very early 123 with a pneumatic power valve
from a distance you've got a 34mm carb and matching inlet rubber,these 2 are worth more than you paid for the bike alone......
it might not run because you have the polarity swapped on the battery.......looks to me like the neg connection is feeding the fuses
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tbh the hole electrics look rough as fuck  |
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| dougon2wheels wrote: | you got a bargain there.......
the engine is the very early 123 with a pneumatic power valve
from a distance you've got a 34mm carb and matching inlet rubber,these 2 are worth more than you paid for the bike alone......
it might not run because you have the polarity swapped on the battery.......looks to me like the neg connection is feeding the fuses
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Second that. I'd say it looks like someones also done a bodge extension on the negative lead to make it reach the positive terminal on the battery. Try whpping it round, check the fuses and it may well come to life... ____________________ "THOSE WHO RISK NOTHING, DO NOTHING, ACHIEVE NOTHING, BECOME NOTHING." |
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thanks guys it worked !!!!!!!
it is still a bit mixed up horn sounds like a whisle and the lights are mixed up too. but the starter spins. i just need to find a cover to hold the starter gear on to see if it will start.
as long as its not costing me loads of money i am going to keep going with it untill i find a major problem. if i can here it running then i will stripp it down get it painted up and free off breaks and re build the supsenion.
the next thing i am un sure off is power valve? in the photo nothing is holding this on and they is a big spring under it which fell out.? any ideas welcome ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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temping but i think i will keep hold of it  ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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Don't you dare sell it without offering me first refusal!!!
I'd say your in a pretty priveliged position. You have little self confidence with engineering but have a decent and cheap bike that you don't depend on and is in need of a bit of work. That's a perfect situation! You'll quickly find how simple most of the jobs will be and with a bit of thought a decent manual (if you can find one) and some simple toolage, you'll get it sorted without too much difficulty or expense if you dig around for parts.
After all that you'll have a good little bike you'll feel a part of and be much more confident and capable with sorting your own bikes in future instead of paying garages for doing work. In time the bike will have paid for itself!
Stick with it mate!!  ____________________ "THOSE WHO RISK NOTHING, DO NOTHING, ACHIEVE NOTHING, BECOME NOTHING." |
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dont worry its stayin with me.
on sunday i could here all the bikes close to my house and was think i should be out there again. not been on a bike for few years. and cant want to get it sorted. even my dad wants a ride on it he hasnt been on a bike for 20 odd years.
i am just waiting for the lad i got it off to call me so i can go get the rest of the bits. sent him about 100 messages today asking when i could get them. he still has the starter gear cover so cannt try starting it untill i have that times a ticking.  ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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Hi
It is a Tuareg Wind (although not sure it is badged Wind). The engine is a Rotax 127, not a 123 (main difference is that the 123 has a counter balancer but the 127 doesn't, the 127 basically being a competition engine that was also sold in road form while the 123 is a road engine). Quite a few internal bits are the same between the 123 and 127 engines, but not many external bits. Claimed power was 26hp, but I suspect the reality is 20~21.
The engine will run without most of the electrics in place (it is self generating). Basically the stator has 3 wires to connect to the coil and one wire that goes to the loom, and as long as those are OK then it should run.
The starter motor is a bit of a bodge on these. Bit of bent metal holding it on one side, while on the other it bolts to the plastic cover over the rotor.
Engine spares you should be able to get from Peter Knight (0176 141 4106 ).
All the best
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My word Keith, how do you do it?!!!
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bad news bike has to go
its going on ebay for quick sale
i just dont have the time to sort it out
thanks for all the help people have gave me ____________________ check out my other interests www.yorkshire-suzuki.co.uk |
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