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clancy
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: (HELP) bike failed MOT because of.... Reply with quote

1.-- nearside front shock absorber seal failed and leaking oil.
( know how to fix this)

2-- steering movement excessively "notchy" with the wheel raised.

3-- front stop light does not illuminate when brake is applied

4-- rear reflector missing.

5-- drive chain excessively loose.



i know how to replace the fork seal so i dont need help with that, but any help or advice with the other parts would be appreciated.
the mechanic that did the mot was abit useless and didnt explain anything to me.

ive written the 5 points just as he wrote them on my form.
the bike is a rieju rs2 matrix 2005 model.

any help would be apreciated cuz i need the bike back on the road as soon as possible.

thanks, leigh.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

#2 Looks light a set of head race bearings PITA to do as you need the entire front end of the bike off and usually 2-3 special tools.

#3 check the wiring then the switch and that the brake lever actually activates the switch a replaced front end brake lever I got once did not touch the switch.

#4 Buy a rear reflector £2 from any bike/car factors infact go to a car factors they are usually cheaper.

#5 Erm tighten your chain?. from pictures your bike looks like it has the regular end of swing arm adjusters. Just undo the big bolts on the wheel spindle, then wind out the adjusters. Measure both sides of the adjusters to keep your wheel in line and turn the adjusters an equal amount to keep the wheel alignment.

Then do up the big bolts on the spindle , and sit on the bike with somebody else pushing the chain up and or down up so that it can just about slap the swing arm (see the manual for the correct amount of slack) it has to have some slack else it will wear your output shaft badly and cause chain snappage.

If however your adjusters are already the maximum distance out then its time for a new chain the other method of cutting a link out and rejoining it requires a few tools and is NOT recommended.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

2-- steering movement excessively "notchy" with the wheel raised.

May just need steering bearings taking apart, cleaning and re-greasing. If that doesn't work you'll need to fit new ones, shouldn't be to difficult if you know how to replace the fork seals.

3-- front stop light does not illuminate when brake is applied

Front brake light switch could be knackered or a bad connection. You should be able to prove this by shorting out the two connectors that fit onto the switch with each other.

4-- rear reflector missing.

Fit one.

5-- drive chain excessively loose.

Adjust the chain tension, unless they mean the chain is knackered.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what special tools might i require for the headrace bearings?
ill be allright with everything except the front break light.

any chance you could talk me through exactly what to do ? im not good with electrics, so this talk of shorting out connectors and whatever went right over my head?

thanks for your help, leigh.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be two connectors going to a switch which will probably be under your front brake lever somewhere. Normally when you pull the brake lever it will release the switch and close the circut making your brake light come on. If you pull the two connectors off the switch and connect them together the brake light should come on. If it does theres a problem with the switch, if it doesn't you may have a wiring fault somewhere.

As for the steering bearings no special tools should be required other than maybe a C-spanner but I managed to do mine without.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dilusi wrote:
There should be two connectors going to a switch which will probably be under your front brake lever somewhere. Normally when you pull the brake lever it will release the switch and close the circut making your brake light come on. If you pull the two connectors off the switch and connect them together the brake light should come on. If it does theres a problem with the switch, if it doesn't you may have a wiring fault somewhere.

As for the steering bearings no special tools should be required other than maybe a C-spanner but I managed to do mine without.


ah right i get you.
ok , well ill check what you just said and get back to you.

thanks for your help, leigh.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dilusi wrote:
May just need steering bearings taking apart, cleaning and re-greasing. If that doesn't work you'll need to fit new ones, shouldn't be to difficult if you know how to replace the fork seals.

Don't do that, it won't fix it. Replace the bearings. Once there is a notch in it you can't fix it. If you're going to take the front end apart you might as well replace the bearings for the sake of £15.

Clancy wrote:

4-- rear reflector missing.
Normally MOT places will put a stick on reflector on the corner of the number plate.

Clancy wrote:
5-- drive chain excessively loose.
Tighten it so it moves 3cm in the middle of the lower chain run. Turn the chain through an entire rotation and make sure there are no tight spots. If there are, make sure it has some slack at the tightest spot.

Blimey, if you can do fork seals and can't tighten a chain... I'd worry! Wink
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Blimey, if you can do fork seals and can't tighten a chain... I'd worry! Wink


Not checking the basics it may fail on before taking a bike for an MOT is the worrying thing. Wink
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Blimey, if you can do fork seals and can't tighten a chain... I'd worry! Wink


Its called kitchen towel under the dust seals Wink
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Not checking the basics it may fail on before taking a bike for an MOT is the worrying thing. Wink


You mean like not checking water is not pi$$ing from the cylinder head before you set off to ride to the MOT place? Doh!
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: (HELP) bike failed MOT because of.... Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
3-- front stop light does not illuminate when brake is applied.


Doh! Did you not tell the nice MOT tester/mechanic man that bikes generally don't have front stop lights, just rear ones - much like cars in fact! Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 10:18 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: (HELP) bike failed MOT because of.... Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
clancy wrote:
3-- front stop light does not illuminate when brake is applied.


Doh! Did you not tell the nice MOT tester/mechanic man that bikes generally don't have front stop lights, just rear ones - much like cars in fact! Rolling Eyes



Laughing


it doesnt mean a light on the front.
it means when you pull the front break the rear light doesnt illuminate.
he just worded it funny,

leigh.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
MarJay wrote:


Blimey, if you can do fork seals and can't tighten a chain... I'd worry! Wink


Not checking the basics it may fail on before taking a bike for an MOT is the worrying thing. Wink


i know how to change the fork seals because i helped a friend do it.
and i knew the bike was going to fail the mot becasue of that, i just thought id put it in to see what needs doing as id only had the bike like 3 days and it wasnt in great nick.

leigh
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: (HELP) bike failed MOT because of.... Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
it doesnt mean a light on the front.
it means when you pull the front break the rear light doesnt illuminate.
he just worded it funny,

leigh.


Yes I know what it meant really... that's why there was a Laughing at the end of my post!

(I dunno why I bother wasting my sarcasm on this forum sometimes! Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: (HELP) bike failed MOT because of.... Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
(I dunno why I bother wasting my sarcasm on this forum sometimes! Rolling Eyes )


I read it that way too (but knew what he meant), so I for one could appreciate the sarcasm Thumbs Up Very Happy
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