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PostPosted: 10:20 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Are we alone in the universe? Reply with quote

I know this topics been done a few times, but I think we should have it again.

What's your views on life from other planets? Does it actually exist? Are they walking among us?

Personally, I'm certain there is something out there. I'm hoping there's lots out there. Maybe they are watching us from space, waiting until we pass some goal they may have set. Once we have passed this goal, for example, making it 1million miles from out home planet, they will make themselves known.

This test could prove that our race has the power and technology to achieve this, but obviously if we have that power, we also have the power to destroy, i.e nuclear weaponry.

If we have managed to achieve the goal without destroying ourselves, then maybe we are a trusted race?

Maybe humanity was told this thousands of years ago, but religious leaders hid it from
everyone?



Or maybe we really are just alone...
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:30 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a book called 'Probability One', which deals with the simply statistical considerations of there being other 'intelligent' life in the universe.

It states that because it is so huge, there must be other intelligent life.

I think it is pretty fair to assume that is correct, but as for there being intelligent life which had developed to a stage where it can complete intergalactical travel easily, that is probably a bit far fetched. It is rather difficult you know.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In short, yes, I definately believe there is other intelligent life out there.

Are they technologically advanced? I don't know, maybe, I think it's plausible.

Are they amongst us? Men in black style? No, but I think that many UFO accounts are genuine and I do think we have been visited by extraterrestrial life, both in the Mayan/Sumarian times and in the present.

As an aside, I often have reoccuring dreams whereby I see hundred/thousands UFO's flying across the sky of all different shapes and sizes. Sometimes the visitors are friendly, sometimes they wreak havoc and destroy. I like to think that within my lifetime we'll get a definite answer.

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PostPosted: 10:53 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Pretty certain statisically that there are other life forms on other planets. How many are intelligent, and how many of those are intelligent at the same time as us is another question. After all, things that look like humans have only been around for about 1/20000th of the life of the earth. Chances of us being around at the same time are the same as the chances of 2 people bumping into each other in a place that they each spend about 1 minute a month at.

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PostPosted: 10:53 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've often thought that our reality, and four dimensions aren't necessarily all there is to the universe. I think that other things could be existing in other forms we can't imagine. There could be other forms of life passing through our eyeballs every moment! And we'd never know...
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can spend so long reading books and reading/writing on the internet about whether there are other species of beings in the universe that you wont make the most of meeting and itneracting the ones that are all around you.

That's a long winded way of saying i dont really care either way. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There MUST be intelligent life elsewhere. What kind of f**ked up place would it be if we were THE supreme beings. With our drugs and wars and shellsuits and single mothers.
I think the aliens are waiting for us to clean up our act before they get in touch. I mean look at what we have orbiting our planet. Satelites and feckin coffins!! We are the trailer trash of the universe and a truly intelligent race wouldn't come near us at the minute.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could well be (and probalby is) life on other planets in other galaxy's / universe's. But the time it would take to travel that far, civilisations could be born and die off again.

Human's, arguably have been around for about 200,000 years. Although this 'Lucy' (humanoil fossil that walked upright) was dated at 3 - 3.6 million years.

If we were to travel to Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 light years) is would take around 2 & half million earth years, and that would be if we could even get close to travelling at the speed of light! Laughing

I doubt that humans will ever see intelligent life from another planet, although I'd love to be wrong! Wink
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: Are we alone in the universe? Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:
Maybe they are watching us from space, waiting until we pass some goal they may have set. Once we have passed this goal, for example, making it 1million miles from out home planet, they will make themselves known.

This test could prove that our race has the power and technology to achieve this, but obviously if we have that power, we also have the power to destroy, i.e nuclear weaponry.

If we have managed to achieve the goal without destroying ourselves, then maybe we are a trusted race?

Maybe humanity was told this thousands of years ago, but religious leaders hid it from
everyone?


Clearly you must be referring to us discovering warp-drive technology? Isn't this what lead the Vulcans to visit Earth in Star Trek: First Contact?

Clearly the Vulcans aren't watching as I rode to work this morning at warp-speed on my VFR...don't think I'll be doing the same speeds home due to the fact it pizzled down quite badly earlier this afternoon. Sad
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not so much that I believe there is Life on other planets, so much as I can't believe there isn't.

As for walking among us, tell me Derren Brown isn't an alien.

(and I won't believe you)
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to see Buzz tomorrow - I will ask him for you.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:
If we were to travel to Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 light years) is would take around 2 & half million earth years, and that would be if we could even get close to travelling at the speed of light! Laughing


Not sure I would could a millionth of the speed of light as close to it Wink .

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:06 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

Not sure I would could a millionth of the speed of light as close to it Wink .

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:08 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Err, 2.5 light years and taking 2.5 million years to get there suggests an average speed of about 1 millionth of the speed of light. Which is hardly close to the speed of light.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know, but just read your sentance, out loud, several times, like I have done, I just don't get it! Laughing

Perhaps it's a friday, and my sense of humour has gone haywire...
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Could / Count . Well, they share a couple of letters.

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Err, 2.5 light years and taking 2.5 million years to get there suggests an average speed of about 1 millionth of the speed of light. Which is hardly close to the speed of light.

All the best

Keith


I'm just quoting from t'internet. Wink My maths couldn't even come close to working out how long it would take, but I know it would be a bloody long time. If someone were to leave earth now, get there, then get back with the news, humans would no longer be around, maybe no life on earth at all! Maybe no earth at all!

Confused

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PostPosted: 15:48 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of there being other life, but on the other hand I get a bit annoyed that I'm probably not going to see it. Feel like I might miss out on it!

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
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Err, 2.5 light years and taking 2.5 million years to get there suggests an average speed of about 1 millionth of the speed of light. Which is hardly close to the speed of light.

All the best

Keith


I'm just quoting from t'internet. Wink My maths couldn't even come close to working out how long it would take, but I know it would be a bloody long time. If someone were to leave earth now, get there, then get back with the news, humans would no longer be around, maybe no life on earth at all! Maybe no earth at all!

Confused

Laughing


No difficult maths is required really - if somewhere's 2.5 light years away (i.e. it takes light 2.5 years to get there), and we can travel at almost the speed of light (hypothetically), it'd take us a little over 2.5 Earth years to get there. So wouldn't be impossible to get there and back within a lifespan, as long as you can get to almost light speed!
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
I like the idea of there being other life, but on the other hand I get a bit annoyed that I'm probably not going to see it. Feel like I might miss out on it!

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
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Err, 2.5 light years and taking 2.5 million years to get there suggests an average speed of about 1 millionth of the speed of light. Which is hardly close to the speed of light.

All the best

Keith


I'm just quoting from t'internet. Wink My maths couldn't even come close to working out how long it would take, but I know it would be a bloody long time. If someone were to leave earth now, get there, then get back with the news, humans would no longer be around, maybe no life on earth at all! Maybe no earth at all!

Confused

Laughing


No difficult maths is required really - if somewhere's 2.5 light years away (i.e. it takes light 2.5 years to get there), and we can travel at almost the speed of light (hypothetically), it'd take us a little over 2.5 Earth years to get there. So wouldn't be impossible to get there and back within a lifespan, as long as you can get to almost light speed!


I guess then the quote I took was if the ship was to travel at speeds we know are capable, rather than at speeds we cant! Wink
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:

I guess then the quote I took was if the ship was to travel at speeds we know are capable, rather than at speeds we cant! Wink


Ah, fair enough then. I've just been on Wikipedia to try and figure it out, out of interest. Apparently light travels at 670,616,629mph, and the fastest we've been is about 25,000mph in space. So light is about 26825 times as fast as we've been, so it'd take about 67,000 years to get to Andromeda!

Apparently we've had an unmanned spacecraft go 157,000mph, so that'd only take ~10,700 years to get there...

Sure we could go faster if we really tried though.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my honest opinion, I am 99.9% sure there is life on other planets. Maybe not in our galaxy but there's millions of other galaxy's out there with various numbers of planets in each. I would be suprised if we were actually alone in this massive universe. I hope they don't come here though because that means they have greater technology than us so we're basically fucked. But maybe they have already come, and they wiped out the dinosaurs.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

All examples of conscious life are components of the same one universal consciousness, and the distances between them are an illusion.

Next time you have an OBE see how long it takes you to travel 2.5 light-years, or a distance a trillion times greater or more...it takes as long as it takes you to think yourself there. Because the universe is an illusion that exists only in your mind, and your mind is the same universal consciousness that is every other conscious being's mind.

Simples. Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, here's the thing. We are part of 'God's' chemistry set. Basically God created a planet, and set up life forms, that evolved over several thousands of years. Human's came about, and set about destroying the planet, themselves, and other living creatures, because they could. This world got buggered up, trashed by the human life, they killed the ozone and stuffed up the entire eco system, so badly that they killed off themselves and the planet...apart from a few who escaped into space.

This planet is known to us as Mars.

The humans who escaped into Space, have evolved into grey creatures (because their flesh see's no sun), they have perfected the art of telepathy, so have large heads, and large eyes to be able to see in the dark.

Billions of years ago, God decided to create life once again on another planet in his chemistry set...that planet being us, Earth...and lo and behold, it seems like we are heading in the same direction as Mars...oops!

The people who think they see Aliens, are actually those who are being re-visited by humans evolved by billions of years. They are as fascinated by 'us' as we are the 'chimpanzee'...

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PostPosted: 11:47 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
I like the idea of there being other life, but on the other hand I get a bit annoyed that I'm probably not going to see it. Feel like I might miss out on it!

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
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Err, 2.5 light years and taking 2.5 million years to get there suggests an average speed of about 1 millionth of the speed of light. Which is hardly close to the speed of light.

All the best

Keith


I'm just quoting from t'internet. Wink My maths couldn't even come close to working out how long it would take, but I know it would be a bloody long time. If someone were to leave earth now, get there, then get back with the news, humans would no longer be around, maybe no life on earth at all! Maybe no earth at all!

Confused

Laughing


No difficult maths is required really - if somewhere's 2.5 light years away (i.e. it takes light 2.5 years to get there), and we can travel at almost the speed of light (hypothetically), it'd take us a little over 2.5 Earth years to get there. So wouldn't be impossible to get there and back within a lifespan, as long as you can get to almost light speed!


It's actually 2.5 million light years away though Smile

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