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 Posted: 02:23 - 17 Aug 2009 Post subject: As there is all this talk about drugs... |
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Just found this;
Is alcohol worse then ecstacy?
Watched the first 7 minutes so far, and it seems to be a very unbiased and factual program
May help clear up a few untruths that some of the users (speaking in all manners) on here may have. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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Oh god I rock
Cannabis higher than Ecstacy and LSD. What have I been telling you kiddies.
 ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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My imagination is too vivid, because whenever one of these debates starts, I imagine a "warm up scene" like in a Tekken/Mortal Kombat fight, and some epic music in the background.  ____________________ "Oh....it looks like Average Joe's is forfeiting the match!" - "Yeah, its a risky strategy but lets see if it pays off for 'em Cotton." |
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Yea still cant get over how in that study LSD is like 16th
Programs like this just fustrate me as people will always revert the arguement that if its illegal its wrong.
Question is though Bonny, would you really want anything legal? ____________________ 99 RS125 --> 02 SV650s --> 03 Speed Four --> 92 RXS100 --> 93 CB400sf --> 01 CB600f Hornet |
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| Kickstart wrote: | Hi
Might well be unless you were looking for a touring bike  .
After all, how important is it if something is addictive but totally unharmful, compared to something non additive but severely harmful?
All the best
Keith |
You got me there. Bugger.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Agreed, there aren't many more ways to do it to be honest.
It's more just creditable scientists, who aren't advocating drugs, merely stating that the classification system makes no sense.
But hell, they don't want to back pedal on all this government funded propaganda, just because of something insignificant like the facts. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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| Mad_Mushroom wrote: | Factors being harm,addictiveness and consequence to society..what else should they have done? |
Some kind of weighting or calculation rather than a simple addition. They say themselves they made no attempt at a weighting. For example if something is lethal on a single use then its rating would be not that much higher than something eventually harmful.
It is a start and far better than the knee jerk political opinions used in the past but far from complete.
Also, looking through the figures it would appear that some of the factors are not that scientifically calculated. For example, from an earlier post:-
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After all, for social harms (including healthcare costs) Heroin only rated 2.54, compared to 2.21 for alcohol. Does that seem vaguely accurate for a single individuals use of these? From the figrues here it appears that heroin in 2007 killed 876 (587 England and Wales, 289 for Scotland) with 0.1% of the population using it. If that useage was 50% (so getting towards that of alcohol) with the same ratio of deaths then that would be ~440k a year, well over triple the death rate even vaguely attributed to alcohol. Doesn't really seem to square the rating if that rating takes into account useage levels. |
| bonny_ricardo wrote: | It's more just creditable scientists, who aren't advocating drugs, merely stating that the classification system makes no sense.
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Agreed. And their classification is very much a first draft.
All the best
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 38 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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