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PostPosted: 15:38 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: It's freezing, what to wear? Reply with quote

Hi, it's only October and it seems though it's already approaching 0c where I am (middle of France)

I have to ride right through winter and every morning I tell myself I need to get kitted out and I always finish the journey with no feeling in my fingers and one hell of a shiver.

I've been looking on eBay for stuff. I have already bought this jacket:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270463553489&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And this balaclava:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220486929234&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT


I wear a scarf around my neck but it doesn't really keep the wind out. I've looked for neck warmers but they all seem very thin. I need something I can ride in sub zero temperatures in.


My legs are fairly well protected by the fairings but I might get some trousers when it gets even colder.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wear a few thin layers under your leathers like a long sleeved top and then t shirt then jumper then leathers, plus if you get cold legs i find jeans under my leathers keeps me warm as well
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get something made of Merino wool, you'll be roasting in five seconds Smile

I think Millets have thermals made of the stuff. It's like putting on a pressure cooker.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Topic has been covered many times before.
Basically go for layers of clothing rather than one thick item.

For ideas click here or this thread with a pic of stinkwheel's winter clothing (he's from where the haggis roam free so maybe all year clothing Confused)

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/clothing.jpg

FWIW silk (thermal) underwear is very good but has limited life. Just don't get caught looking too closely in the lingerie department Wink

My personal favourite for winter gloves are the lobster type - covered before if you click this thread.

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PostPosted: 16:25 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.surplusandadventure.com/images/product/main/bomber_jacket_b2.jpg

or:

Long sleeved base layer
Shirt
Fleece/norgie top
Thick Neck Warmer + buff
Kidney Belt
Textile Jacket with liner

Long-johns
Jogging pants
Textile trousers

How cold is it?!

Just remembered that I have heated grips and hand-guards too.... Razz
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 15 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping your core warm will keep you extremities warmer for longer. Would also be worth an investment in heat gripes. They are lovely on a cold day.

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Also going slower helps keep your warmer too, wind chill makes a lot of difference. Try wearing your waterproofs over the top of the leathers too.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep - I've got a merino wool top and it really is warm. They cost loads - £40 for long johns but they keep new zealand lambs warm in the snow!
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxford Heated Grips and Handguards, they were my best investment for my Varadero.

I will be buying more for the CBF soon to.

Although i do hear rave reviews about heated gloves mmmm toasty
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Handguards would definitely be the best investment.
And a pair of thermal socks.
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PostPosted: 03:28 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since no-one has yet addressed the actually question OP asked.


What you need is a polar buff, it is like one of those thin neck warmers but with a fleesy bit attached.

One of these, https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/POLAR-BUFF-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ130337457259QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sporting_Goods_Skiing_Snowboarding_Clothing_LE?hash=item1e58b7c46b.

If it is really cold I sometimes put a shemag around my neck too (army issue scarf that has become fashionable recently)

https://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=shemag You should be able to get them from a market cheaper, down here I can get 4 for a fiver. Shemags are also brilliant for riding in the summer on there own.

The HG 2 finger gloves are widely known to be the best winter gloves.

https://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/6_144/products_id/3688


As Calyx said handguards are the best thing for keeping your hands warm but may be hard to fit depending on your bike. Muffs are ok but I find they interfer with the controls. Hand guards combined with heated grips and those gloves will keep your hands warm all through the winter. I have never found the needs for thermal socks get a decent set of Goretex boots and you should be fine. My Alpine Star SMX4 WP are brilliant.
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PostPosted: 04:43 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 pairs of tracksuit bottoms will keep your legs warm through anything.
I have a set of leathers which I can wear over them too for protection. If it's very cold I wear that and when I get to work I put overalls in place of my leathers (I work outside often standing still for hours at a time so can get very cold). Obviously the top pair get a bit dirty and the bottom pair a bit sweaty, so every day I wear a clean pair underneath and put the previous day's 'under' ones on top of the clean ones so my wife doesn't go mad about the washing.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the polar Buff but the buff bit was too tight for me so i cut it off and use the polar tec bit as a snood Shocked , it sits nicely in my jacket and up my neck to the helmet without choking me and keeps the chill off my neck.

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PostPosted: 09:35 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use these Frank Thomas thermal & windproof long johns- good stuff!!!

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130336917116&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT


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PostPosted: 11:06 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I realised is to not have the layers too tight that you're restricting your movement as I figured out last night!
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: It's freezing, what to wear? Reply with quote

I was riding through Europe recently - only hit a low of 6 degrees in the north, however on one hand I only had a motocross glove and a silk liner. Never really had /that/ cold hands.
Muffs with the under-grip bar warmers were fine with this combination. Going for those two as well as a glove liner and proper winter gloves would do it. I found the warmers seemed to help keep the rest of my arms warm too - I wondered if maybe it warmed up the blood a bit which then returned up the arm slightly warming the surrounding arm.
I had an aerostich roadcrafter one piece (highly reccomended; takes under thirty seconds to put on when you get used to it). Under that, once I noticed it was a bit chilly, I wore five thinish layers - a silk 'thermal' base layer, a tshirt, a long sleeved t-shirt, a 'Norwegian shirt' and another fleece. Seemed to work ok - this was riding a trail bike with an upright riding position and a pretty tiny screen.
Only pic I've got up of the ensemble so far isn't great:
https://gees.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p425948804-4.jpg
They do come in less 'noticable' colours.

I didn't find my legs were getting cold with just trousers under the suit, though I had more layers if needed. The bike has a quite wide long-range tank and I had pretty warm socks on under the large motocross boots.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

my textiles are so warm i dont need loadsa underlayers.

i just wear a t-shirt under my textiles and as long as i've got my thermal inner zipped in im toasty Smile

havent bothered putting the inner in my trousers yet but then i have my jeans underneath anyway

other than that i just have a comfy to pull up over my mouth/nose and some silk inners for my gloves as i hate my winter ones (damn warm but you cant feel anything with em on)


IF wearing my leathers in this kinda weather (like i was yesterday) i have full base layers top and bottoms, long johns and a long sleeve top over my base layers. kept me reasonably warm but i think i'll be investing in some windstopper (edz ones) mid layers as the wind chill seemed to be my biggest enemy
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally, you can get heated clothing-kits for £25 or so. I bought some of the wire from the bloke selling them (as I have all the connectors etc), but never got around to using it as I never got /that/ cold before I got to the Mediterranean coast.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually wear a nice warm car with a heater that works Smile
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

covdude wrote:
What's this anyone, is it a keeper ? ... i know it's a mouthpeice, but what's its purpose


tis a breathguard to stop your breathing "misting up" the visor on a cold day.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveJPS wrote:
covdude wrote:
What's this anyone, is it a keeper ? ... i know it's a mouthpeice, but what's its purpose


tis a breathguard to stop your breathing "misting up" the visor on a cold day.


Probably not recommended you keep it in the shitter tho if you intend to stick your face in it
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it was mistakenly used as a 'cup'?
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding neckwarmers, you can get thicker ones but they aren't as effective as a thinner one. It seems you can't buy a knitted type cotton one, probably because when wet they retain water and potentially make you very cold!

My necktube is called 'The Tube'. May be able to get some info on it on Google. It's acrylic, so has the thickness that a knitted type one would have. However, my mind isn't made up, as although it's warm to wear, it doesn't seem to be very windproof and is hard to fit under a jacket collar.
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