having second thoughts

[wupwup]

im 16 and have been set on getting a motorbike in a few months. but yesterday i managed to dislocate my shoulder again and im wondering whether its worth the risk. i mean i've only got one body and its already falling apart. do i want to risk a crash? people always go on about how bikes are deathtraps but are they really that dangerous or do they get that reputation because of pedbois riding into lampposts? is there a signifigant risk over cars? sorry for the weird question. thanks for any replies

[Ste]

You dislocated your shoulder again and you're wonder if it's worth the risk? I'd suggest that you stop doing whatever it is that has caused you to dislocate your shoulder again, then you should be able to ride a bike without problems.

Cars are dangerous, how many people do you know who have been killed in car crashes?

Bikes are dangerous... crossing the road is dangerous, walking up or down stairs is dangerous, etc etc.

Do you ride a pushbike on the roads?

The risks from riding a bike are different to the risks of driving a car. In a car there isn't really any risk of falling off and being run over by a lorry. On a bike there isn't really any risk of crashing and then being trapped inside your burning vehicle.

[That_Hornet]

I would rather be on my bike than in the back seat of a 3 door car any day.

Bikes are dangerous, FACT. But that, I'm sure, is what motivates a lot of people to ride them. (Other than that its a fanny magnet)

But people can have a life time without crashing on a bike. Or if you Dunc about 3 weeks.

[cyberglass]

Yep bikes are a big risk but so is walking to the shops you could be Run down by a bus, Blown up by terrorists, Ripped apart by a illegal pitbull, Slip on a banana skin and break your neck and be paralyzed, of heaven forbid a plane engine could fall out the sky and squish you.



Stop being a poofter and get a bike
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[Robby]

If you're a repeat dislocator you can get an op on the joint(s) that dislocate. I had a should done about 6 months ago. One night in hospital, no pain, 6 weeks in a sling and back to normal in 6 months.

Big purple scar too, hope it fade so I can get some ink over it.

[wupwup]

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Read this then quit whining.
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[That_Hornet]

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[T0MMY]

I hate when I hear these ridiculous arguments along the lines of "...but you could die putting on your trousers in the morning". So what? You should take up russian roulette as a hobby?

The fact is that riding a motorbike is massively more dangerous than driving a car and saying anything different is counterproductive to the REAL argument for why it's still an acceptable risk which is to say that whilst you may be 10 times as likely to be seriously hurt on a bike than in a car (no idea what the actual stats are) you still aren't THAT likely to get hurt over a life times riding, just MORE likely than in a car.

I sometimes think about it because my other hobbies are rugby, snowboarding and scuba diving and if I was to ever damage myself seriously on the bike I may have to give them up (well the first two anyway). Frankly the rugby is more important to me than the bikes and the thought of not being able to play because I can't run properly (or at all) is pretty shit.
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[Ste]

[T0MMY]

[Redoko]

Life's for living.


Better to regret doing something than spend a lifetime wondering how it would be?


Try it... It's not like you can't sell the bike and buy a car, (when you're 17) although I can pretty much guarantee you, you will love it.


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[T0MMY]

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[T0MMY]

This is truly fascinating...let me run through some parameters that seem true just through common sense and see which you do and don't believe:-

A crash at any given speed is more likely to result in serious injury on a bike than in a car? (we're talking statistically, obviously there is the rare occasion when a car catches fire or something)

A motorcycle is harder to see than a car in just about any situation?

The movement and road positioning of motorcycles is often unexpected for car drivers with filtering etc. and can put the riders in relatively dangerous positions?

Motorcycles generally have longer stopping distances than cars, especially whilst cornering?
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[st3v3]

I see what you did there, but your questions seem to be pretty biased towards your point, as a posed to neutral for 'research' as you suggested at the start of the post.

I'm sorry, I won't be made to feel like a guinea pig to prove your point.

I have no fur.
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[c_dug]

This is a funny thread to read, TOMMY is 100% right in everything he has said I don't really see how it can be argued that bikes are safer

However I would never let that stop me riding, despite the practicalities if it came down to it and I could only ever have one or the other it would be a bike every time.

By the way OP you're pretty unlikely to get an unbiased opinion about bike safety from a forum full of bikers

c_dug
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[smegballs]

I think its all down to the luck of the draw when it comes to crashes...

It seems in crash X a seatbelt is a good thing, but in crash Y going out the window would have actually saved you....

Sure a car has crumple zones etc etc and is a metal cage. Bad news is that cage can crumple in on you and get you nicely pinned.

On the other hand bikers take to the road encased in a load of personal armour (well not all of them) that is excellent at abrasive protection. If you are lucky enough that the collision throws you clear of the vehicles and you go for a ride down the tarmac then you will most likely walk away from it, the same crash in a car could fuck you up. Or you are unlikely and have a toasty hot exhaust pipe wrapped round your leg...

Take mattspratts recent crash at about 70 I believe into the back of a slow moving (if not stationary) car. Rocketed forward, bounced of his head and walks away from it all with a broken hand.... If he was in a car it may have been much worse.

Truth is there is no "general accident", conditions and circumstances vary so much that I find it better to not give a shit and just ride.

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[TheDonUK]

Its risky, those of us who ride accept the risks, no one can tell you if you should accept the risks, its up to you to decide if riding bikes is worth it for you.

Whats the Anthony Hopkins quote in the worlds fastest indian?

"You live more in 5 minues going flat out on a fast bike than some people do in a lifetime"
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