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PostPosted: 11:29 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Spare petrol cannister/bottle? Reply with quote

I think i saw a topic about this kind of thing ages ago but couldnt find it.

is there a good sort of cannister/bottlecontainer to carry with you with some petrol in just in case worst comes to worst and your reserve tank runs out?

just to carry with on a day when you know you will be riding a lot but not sure how far and few between the petrol stations are.

any links/ideas welcome Very Happy

i know petrol is flammable (duh) so i dont think a plastic bottle is best really lol, a jerry can style bottle would be awesome.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know it HAS to legally be in a designated petrol can.

Those plastic ones you get at petrol stations are usually good enough, Hold 5L so one would get you to a petrol station no bother.

Petrol can be quite solvent against some types of plastic, polystyrene etc., so if you're using a different container not designed to carry petrol, watch out and test it first, leave it overnight full and squeeze it in the morning and see if it feels like it's softened.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about that for touring, maybe carrying a 5L jerry can on the bike but I think that might be a bit overkill? Apparently you can get 1.5L ones which I suppose would be quite handy and more practical.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly the 5L ones are about the size of a pillion seat and about 8 inches high. They aren't very bulky for what they are. If you are really up crap creek, you may be thankful for 50 miles as opposed to 15.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Savage- wrote:
Honestly the 5L ones are about the size of a pillion seat and about 8 inches high. They aren't very bulky for what they are. If you are really up crap creek, you may be thankful for 50 miles as opposed to 15.


So where does your pillion go?
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hein Gericke do a 2litre one for 8 quid.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
-Savage- wrote:
Honestly the 5L ones are about the size of a pillion seat and about 8 inches high. They aren't very bulky for what they are. If you are really up crap creek, you may be thankful for 50 miles as opposed to 15.


So where does your pillion go?


No one said anything about a pillion,

But the same sized can should be able to be strapped onto the top of a pannier.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.google.co.uk/products?q=5+litre+jerry+can

A 2L one would be pretty perfect actually, but is it a metal one or not? I would want a little metal one, seems more safe too. And 5L really doesn't take up much space and I would much rather have 50 (or 100 miles in my case) to get to a petrol station.

I once nearly ran out of petrol in Ireland and didn't realise that every petrol station there closes over night. I was passing loads but all of them were closed for 200KM Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really wouldn't bother unless touring outside Europe.
Maybe if on some sort of custom bike with a peanut sized tank.
A 5 litre can is worth having anyway though so you have some at home for emergencies.


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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
https://www.google.co.uk/products?q=5+litre+jerry+can

A 2L one would be pretty perfect actually, but is it a metal one or not? I would want a little metal one, seems more safe too. And 5L really doesn't take up much space and I would much rather have 50 (or 100 miles in my case) to get to a petrol station.

I once nearly ran out of petrol in Ireland and didn't realise that every petrol station there closes over night. I was passing loads but all of them were closed for 200KM Laughing


If you need 5l you have planned extremely badly. plus knowing you've got 5l you'll be more likely to use it as an extension of your tank, which will get you in the same trouble as if you never had ay spare fuel.

Add to that the extra weight, which will have an affect on fuel consumption however small and the extra bulk and its not worth it unless you are travelling outside or Europe or in remote areas e.g Highlands etc..
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/impreza_2007/Picture282.jpg

20 Litres FTW!
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
https://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/impreza_2007/Picture282.jpg

20 Litres FTW!


Suits that bike.

I bet the jerry can is larger than the fuel tank, lol.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

12L tank, but the pannier racks fit 2x20L cans, and 2x5L cans
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
12L tank, but the pannier racks fit 2x20L cans, and 2x5L cans


62 L at a conservative 75MPG average would get you 1022 miles Shocked A large range for a small bike to be sure!

And c-m, you don't have to carry a full 5L of fuel in a little 5L jerry can, you could just put 1L in there if you wanted to Razz they aren't that bulky and the main reason I said it was because I couldn't find any smaller ones made out of metal and it's good to have your options open Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For ultra emergencies in the middle of nowhere how about a small camping fuel bottle. They're red, aluminium and marked Fuel to keep the health and safety whingers happy. They usually store a litre which on a 125 would get you about 20 miles on my SV 12-14. Probably not very far on a thirsty litre bike.

Bonus if you're camping and have the stove too is it also cooks your food and makes a brew Smile

Nothing beats caution and an emergency tenner under the seat if you've forgot your card tho.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
Bonus if you're camping and have the stove too is it also cooks your food and makes a brew Smile


You'd have camping equipment / a stove that burns petrol? Confused
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
truslack wrote:
12L tank, but the pannier racks fit 2x20L cans, and 2x5L cans


62 L at a conservative 75MPG average would get you 1022 miles Shocked A large range for a small bike to be sure!

And c-m, you don't have to carry a full 5L of fuel in a little 5L jerry can, you could just put 1L in there if you wanted to Razz they aren't that bulky and the main reason I said it was because I couldn't find any smaller ones made out of metal and it's good to have your options open Thumbs Up



I imagine with 62l of fuel onboard + luggage for 1000 mile trip would considerably lower the mpg Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the smeg do you need so much fuel for? I went to one of the more remote regions of the world Siberia and there was petrol to be had in most places. Granted it was sometimes out the back of cars and there were many fuel stations sans fuel.

but you can get it anywhere and everywhere. Walter found it highup on the Pamir highway and also on the northern Siberian road.

Maciek found Petrol right near Omsuchkchan and Marenga a 2 week mud hell trek to go 200km.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The official Trangia bottle holds a litre and is pretty robust. I use it when on C90 expeditions to supplement the tiny tank. Don't bother on my 600 which holds about 18 litres.

Incidentally, ferry companies can be quite stubborn with regard to extra fuel tanks (even those that are correctly designed and labeled for the job) and may/will refuse to carry you if they spot one. I have experienced this myself in the Highlands.

https://www.moontrail.com/details/trangia/fuelbttl-lid.jpg

B&Q also do a green plastic three litre petrol tank in their lawnmower section.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:

62 L at a conservative 75MPG average would get you 1022 miles Shocked A large range for a small bike to be sure!


Just a shame it isn't a small bike, or do 75mpg Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, well it looked small at first glance, and if it was (allymoss) then 75 as an average would be attainable because you'd have lots of time while riding with those tanks empty of fuel.

What MPG does it actually get?
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
Ah, well it looked small at first glance, and if it was (allymoss) then 75 as an average would be attainable because you'd have lots of time while riding with those tanks empty of fuel.

What MPG does it actually get?


Between 35 and 50 mpg.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swim41 wrote:
The official Trangia bottle holds a litre and is pretty robust. I use it when on C90 expeditions to supplement the tiny tank. Don't bother on my 600 which holds about 18 litres.

Incidentally, ferry companies can be quite stubborn with regard to extra fuel tanks (even those that are correctly designed and labeled for the job) and may/will refuse to carry you if they spot one. I have experienced this myself in the Highlands.

https://www.moontrail.com/details/trangia/fuelbttl-lid.jpg

B&Q also do a green plastic three litre petrol tank in their lawnmower section.



the nozzle at a petrol station wouldn't fit in that, and if you fill it from a fuel line it defeats the whole purpose of carrying it.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
the nozzle at a petrol station wouldn't fit in that, and if you fill it from a fuel line it defeats the whole purpose of carrying it.


Never had a problem. The neck is quite wide, and the nozzels on unleaded pumps are relatively narrow.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 24 Apr 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

some nice suggestions, i will try the local camping shop.. also ask in hein gericke Smile

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