NO INDICATORS AND TEST IS SOON....PLEASE HELP!!!!!

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

hi, i have a peugeot xps 50...my indicators do not work but when i hook them up to a 9v durecell batter they work. i need to know whats wrong before i can fix it and i have my cbt very soon...please help me.

steven_191 · Nearly there... Joined: 31 May 2009 Karma :

test the relay for power. check the switch. check your fuses.

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

have tried that...still not working. is there anyway you could make your own circuit?

Frost · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 May 2004 Karma :

Either a break in the wiring or the flasher relay has blown.

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

how would i be able to fix a break in the wiring?

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

Replace the wiring, but get a multimeter and check the reading across the wire before you start hacking away at wiring.

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

how much would we be talking for new wiring and would i have to replace the whole thing? thanks

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

No point skipping that far ahead, try out a multimeter to check for breaks before you start worrying about replacing wires, it might not neccessary. Are you sure youve tested for power coming out and going into the relay as its unlikely all the wires for your indicators would be broken

steven_191 · Nearly there... Joined: 31 May 2009 Karma :

also check your earths.

you need a multimeter to test for 12v at the fuse, relay and switch. probably in that order. if all of those are fine then you need to check for a break in the circuit somewhere else.

nightshaddow · Nearly there... Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Karma :

are they the correct indicators for the bike bike (from the factory) or are they after market,

did you fit them or where they fitted when you got the bike.

most likely is that it will be the relay, though if they are aftermarket they could have been wired incorrectly.

also check the connection between the loom and the indicator, normally bullet connectors if they green or black it could be that, carbon or rust build up may cause a failing in the circuit.

some (very few but some) bikes have to have the "idiot" light working also, check the bulb in the console to make sure
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peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

cheers guys, tried every one of your suggestions but still no joy. i think im going to have to replace the full loom, do yous have any idea at the price of this or any way round it?

thanks

That_Hornet · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Karma :

You don't need a full loom, Bike electrics are a piece of piss, Live in Negative out and an earth.

Are they factory indis or aftermarket?

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

aftermarket, the last owner must have put them on

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

Checked to see that the bulbs arent blown? If its not one of the things listed on this page then its not anything, are you sure youve checked things over with a multimeter, that should show the problem the quickest and easiest. ANd youve checked theres power going into the relay when the ignition is on? and is that coming out the other side? Indicators are the very basic of things, itll either be switch, relay, bulb, or wiring, and thats only the wiring between the indicators and relay, assuming power is going to the relay. Youve checked the ground for each indicator aswell yes?

That_Hornet · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Karma :

Check the connectors.

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

What are the resistance readings?

lonie · Banned Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Karma :

if they are led indis then even if the relay is working then they wont work as you need a special relay fo led indis sa far as i know correct me if im wrong though

p.s please excuse bad spelling+grammar just finished the graveyard shift at work Sad

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

oh i have not checked the earth, i cant seem to find it on the bike. do you have an idea of where the earth is and what i have to do to check it. would the headlights be working if it was a bad earth because they are working?

thanks guys

lonie · Banned Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Karma :

the earth is usualy ran throught the frame so check all that then it usualy goes to teh negetive terminal the earth may have multiple connections so check them all

just take the connections off if you can clean them up and bolt them back on nice and tight

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

will do mate, would the headlight still work though?

lonie · Banned Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Karma :

depends maate like i said it can be earthd in a few places so it may just be the one that earths your indi circit that is loose

the god of earth works in mysterious ways Wink

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

will i check it with a multimeter?

if yes what should the reading be

Jesta_ZX6R · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 23 May 2010 Karma :

Yes, everything electrical needs checking with a multimeter. You can switch it to 20volts or to 200ohms, either will do the job, although you need to have one probe on a positive wire if your checking volts, if your checking ohms then poke it in the indicator bulb socket (theres two places inside here, one for positive and one for negative, so try both) and the other probe onto the ground point. You may have to run through some of the wiring loom to find the end point.

I would start out with volts as thats the more easy of the two and quicker than tracing through the loom. If you dont get a reading then youve got a loose connector or very broken wire, if you do get a reading, then it should be ok, although it would still be advisable to switch it to ohms and check the resistance as it is posible to get 12volts but have high resistance.

Any volts value between 9-13 should be ok, it wont be higher than that unless the engines running and if its low than that then youve probably got your lights on or a super low battery. For resistance, figures between 0-15ohms would be perfectly fine in my opinion, more than that could cause issues, anything more than 100ohm and you have some serious bad connections or wire which will likely have become corroded or similar. Its not a definative test of current throughput ability but it will be enough to point you in the right direction. Have you googled for how to test vehicle faults with a multimeter or something similar? Might well be a youtube video detailing it.

peugeot xps 50 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 22 May 2010 Karma :

thank you everyone, especially Jesta_ZX6R and lonie. all have been good help but i think im just going to have to eat some humble pie and im putting it into the garage next week. ill post again and tell yous all what was wrong when i find out. hopefully its not too expensive but ive rebooked my cbt to the 9th of june so hopefully ill be okay.

thanks, liam