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Michael47
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Insurance if you only lived in UK 2 years? Reply with quote

Hi

I hope someone will be able to help me - I have saved up enough money to get me a new bike YaY \o/ - I am currently not sure if I want the new bmw s1000 rr or a new 2010 fireblade - which is just a positive problem - BUT, I've been trying to get Insurance quotes and turns out no one want's to insure the bikes for me - the reason being that I've only lived in UK for around 2½ years and hence have no insurance history here.

Surely I cannot be the only person who moved from another country (In this case denmark) to the UK and want an insurance for a new bike?

I'm 37 - had my full bike license for 14 years, never had an accident or any other form of disqualification etc.

Most of the insurance companies I have spoken to so far say that the my only choice is to buy a smaller used bike - but as you can imagine that is not exactly what I am looking for now that I saved up the money for a new one.

Does anyone know of any insurance companies that don't mind if you don't have an insurance history in the UK?

Hope someone knows something, thx. in advance.

/Michael


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PostPosted: 19:52 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you back up your Danish NCB?
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Can you back up your Danish NCB?

I asked one of the agents about this, but they said that as that would be over 3 years old (not owned a bike since I moved to UK) it wouldn't help anyway, so I guess no.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael47 wrote:

I asked one of the agents about this, but they said that as that would be over 3 years old (not owned a bike since I moved to UK) it wouldn't help anyway, so I guess no.


Then it's your lack of no claims, rather than your moving here that's causing an issue?
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Michael47 wrote:

I asked one of the agents about this, but they said that as that would be over 3 years old (not owned a bike since I moved to UK) it wouldn't help anyway, so I guess no.


Then it's your lack of no claims, rather than your moving here that's causing an issue?


I guess so - will try and chase down as many as I can over the next couple of weeks, hopefully one of them will offer me an insurance.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance if you only lived in UK 2 years? Reply with quote

How many insurance companies have you phoned? No NCB shouldn't mean no one will insure you. Confused

Try putting your details into some online quote places like confused.com to help get an idea of insurance prices.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 23 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance if you only lived in UK 2 years? Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
How many insurance companies have you phoned? No NCB shouldn't mean no one will insure you. Confused

Try putting your details into some online quote places like confused.com to help get an idea of insurance prices.


Thanks - I will do s few more, but so far all have come back with the same message that no insurers were found - 2 of them were nice enough to send me a reply email stating that they would in fact insure the bike for a year at a rate of the bike's value per year
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you buy a bike in Denmark and insure it there, ride it here?
Is this possible by law?
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PostPosted: 05:31 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never had any problems, getting insurance, have you got a uk licence??
i paid through the nose because i was on a nz licence,
but it still wasn't worth getting it,
i was almost above the law when it came to fines and points,
the British police can't put points on a foreign licence Wink
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've lived in the UK for 2.5 years and have been using a licence from Denmark, then you best exchange it for a UK one soon as you've only got a 3 year window.

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DrivingInGbOnAForeignLicence/DG_4022556
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I insured a car FC and a bike FC just after landing in Australia with no problems. They didn't want to see proof of my UK no claims.

How old are you?
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:
i never had any problems, getting insurance, have you got a uk licence??
i paid through the nose because i was on a nz licence,
but it still wasn't worth getting it,
i was almost above the law when it came to fines and points,
the British police can't put points on a foreign licence Wink


They can still seize your bike though!
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
Can you buy a bike in Denmark and insure it there, ride it here?
Is this possible by law?


I've no idea - but that would have me back to saving for another couple of years, as Denmark have a +180% tax on all bikes's and that's even before VAT, so most bikes cost around 3x what they cost in UK.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:
i never had any problems, getting insurance, have you got a uk licence??
i paid through the nose because i was on a nz licence,
but it still wasn't worth getting it,
i was almost above the law when it came to fines and points,
the British police can't put points on a foreign licence Wink


The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
If you've lived in the UK for 2.5 years and have been using a licence from Denmark, then you best exchange it for a UK one soon as you've only got a 3 year window.

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DrivingInGbOnAForeignLicence/DG_4022556


Yes I replaced my license with the DVLA - was really easy, so that shouldn't be the problem.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
I insured a car FC and a bike FC just after landing in Australia with no problems. They didn't want to see proof of my UK no claims.

How old are you?


Maybe there are less thefts or something in Aus - I'm 37, so boubt it has anything to do with that - I suspect it is a combination of wanting to insure a brand new bike - the bike being a sports bike and the fact that I have no NCB in this country.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have no no claims bonus, and are trying to insure a brand new litre bike, without having ridden anything for over 2 years, not suprising that no-one fancies insuring you.

Have you looked at getting a 2nd hand sports 600 for a year to get some NCB. Will be a lot cheaper than the bikes you are looking at too.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

D O G wrote:
You have no no claims bonus, and are trying to insure a brand new litre bike, without having ridden anything for over 2 years, not suprising that no-one fancies insuring you.

Have you looked at getting a 2nd hand sports 600 for a year to get some NCB. Will be a lot cheaper than the bikes you are looking at too.


I think you are right - will try calling another 10 companies or so - if none of them give me a quote I will have to get a smaller used bike - such a pity though, was really looking forward to getting a new bike.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
Can you buy a bike in Denmark and insure it there, ride it here?
Is this possible by law?


Hahaha, Denmark is very very very VERY expensive to buy bikes due to tax.

Denmark is a lovely place, I've been there many times but I wouldn't live there for that very reason. We in the UK don't know how good we've got it.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you get a good choice of bike!

Iv'e got a 2009 Fireblade, its a brilliant bike, but its a little boring, I'd try both out!
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any dealers doing a free year's insurance with a new bike? If so would you be eligible? Just a thought....
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 24 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dibbster wrote:
Are there any dealers doing a free year's insurance with a new bike? If so would you be eligible? Just a thought....


That's an interesting thought - I'm rushing off to go for another test-ride right now - I have a feeling that if the dealer (in today's case bmw) know that the sale of the bike is linked to me actually getting it insured - that might help Cool - in the case of the s1000 rr it is a 12 grand bike after all.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 25 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved to UK from Denmark 8 years ago and never had a problem with insurance on either cars or bikes and i've had a about 4 of each in the time i've been here.

I even did both licences here cos it's dirt cheap compared to denmark lol.

I think it's bike that's the problem aswell. maybe try getting some quotes on smaller bikes and see if they'll insure you on those.

Just been quoted £230 for the firestorm i'm picking up in 2 weeks yay! £500 cheaper than my old gixxer lol
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 10 Jul 2010    Post subject: Job done! Reply with quote

Hi all

First of all thanks for all the reply's and suggestions :up: and YES! it all worked out - got my brand spanking new s1000rr today insured and all! YaY \o/ :D

in the end I got a quote from the bmw insurance company linked from the bmw motorrad homepage - I am certain they are more expensive than many other companies, but having tried so many other places I wasn't being picky.

One thing that I thought was kindof strange tho - I managed to get my old Danish insurance company send me documentation for having 10 years of no claim bonus, yet when I called one of the main companies they just said that still wouldnt count as:
1. the bikes I got the NCB on were not insured in UK
2. it was over 3 years ago

So to summarize and to be fair - I guess the insurance companies need you to have recent experience with a bike in the same class and in the same country to be willing to insure your bike - at least that is how it looks to me.

Anyway - see you out on the roads :-)
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