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PostPosted: 09:04 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: New PC or upgrade Laptop??? Reply with quote

I have a Toshiba Satellite S1410-303 Laptop which I bought back in 2002.
The problem I have is it can’t seem to keep up with the modern programs and keeps crashing or running slowly so I was wandering if it would be cheaper to buy a more up to date Processor and more Memory rather than buying a new computer?

Current facts and figures:
Toshiba Satellite S1410-303

Celeron ( R ) CPU 1.50GHz
1.50GHz, 348MB of RAM

18.6GB Capacity

10.9GB Used
7.64GB Free

Just bear in mind i'm a computer numpty so have no idea what i would need to do myself.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put more memory in it. Its a cheap upgrade and will revitalise the machine.

Since SP2 came out for XP 512Mb is really the minimum you can get away with to run a PC on. Preferably upgrade to 1Gb or more.

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PostPosted: 10:40 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for more memory.

Visit Crucial Memory and run their scanner tool, it'll tell you how much you can put in your machine, and what type.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit more memory would be the cheaper option?


Your Computer Specifications

256 MB DDR PC2100 128 MB DDR PC2100
Maximum Memory Capacity: 524288 MB
Currently Installed Memory: 384 MB
Available Memory Slots: N.A.
Total Memory Slots: 2
Dual Channel Support: N.A.
CPU Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
CPU Family: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.50GHz Model 2, Stepping 4
CPU Speed: 1495 MHz



I presume everything else should be OK once it has more memory?

Also if i upgrade the memory will it loose all the photo's and files i currently have on the laptop?
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check what hard drive you've got in it too. My lappy used to have a 30gb 4200rpm drive with a slow access speed, it's now got a 120gb 7200rpm drive in it and is much happier.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says somthing about FAT32?
Is that the hardrive size?
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendel wrote:


Also if i upgrade the memory will it loose all the photo's and files i currently have on the laptop?


The files are on your hard drive not your "memory.

As Shaggs says a HD upgrade will help too but then if you've no idea what you're doing it may not be an option.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendel wrote:
It says somthing about FAT32?
Is that the hardrive size?


No. Simply, FAT is the way your files are stored.


Quote:
10.9GB Used
7.64GB Free


That is the size of your hard drive. Add the 2 together.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's worth it in an 8 year old laptop.
So much other stuff in there is really dated like how it handles video.
Why not splash out on something like https://www.ebuyer.com/product/186604 - sorted for another 8 years.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
I don't think it's worth it in an 8 year old laptop.
So much other stuff in there is really dated like how it handles video.
Why not splash out on something like https://www.ebuyer.com/product/186604 - sorted for another 8 years.


I'm trying to avoid buying a new computer really since if i did i'd get a Desktop PC but cant afford £500 for a good one at present.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checking the specs, the most memory you could go to is 512mb, which would be £28 from Crucial. The hard drive you have is a 4200rpm jobbie, a new 5400rpm 40gb drive would be about £25 (120gb around £40), so for less than £60 you would see an improvement - obviously not as much as buying a new £400 laptop, but that's the nature of compromise Smile

I'm guessing it's probably been quite a few years since the O/S was reinstalled and the machine given some housekeeping too. Best find a local tame nerd to give you a hand, methinks.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Checking the specs, the most memory you could go to is 512mb, which would be £28 from Crucial. The hard drive you have is a 4200rpm jobbie, a new 5400rpm 40gb drive would be about £25 (120gb around £40), so for less than £60 you would see an improvement - obviously not as much as buying a new £400 laptop, but that's the nature of compromise Smile

I'm guessing it's probably been quite a few years since the O/S was reinstalled and the machine given some housekeeping too.


Sounds simple Shaggs but if he thinks that his files are stored on his RAM what chance is going to have installing a new OS and then getting the drivers etc.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Checking the specs, the most memory you could go to is 512mb, which would be £28 from Crucial. The hard drive you have is a 4200rpm jobbie, a new 5400rpm 40gb drive would be about £25 (120gb around £40), so for less than £60 you would see an improvement - obviously not as much as buying a new £400 laptop, but that's the nature of compromise Smile

I'm guessing it's probably been quite a few years since the O/S was reinstalled and the machine given some housekeeping too. Best find a local tame nerd to give you a hand, methinks.


While a fresh install, more RAM and a new faster hard drive will improve things don't expect miracles. Only spend money on it if you plan on keeping it a while as its quite a lot of money compared to what the laptop itself is actually worth. Personally I would do a fresh install of windows and start saving for a new laptop.

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PostPosted: 11:31 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP FOLKS

I was thinking of taking it here:

https://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/home.html

for them to do the work.

Since lets face it I only vaguely understood my Commodore 64 when I was a kid so I have no hope of doing the work on it myself.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do pay someone to do the upgrades for you, make sure you get your old drive back, preferably in a caddy like this :-

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310227627628

It's only £3.40, and gives you access to all your old files should they have screwed something up.

Shame you're not local, I'd do it for you for the price of materials and a couple of bacon butties Smile
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendel wrote:
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP FOLKS

I was thinking of taking it here:

https://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/home.html

for them to do the work.

Since lets face it I only vaguely understood my Commodore 64 when I was a kid so I have no hope of doing the work on it myself.


It won't be cheap. The labour costs will probalbly cost more than the parts you're fitting.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, once the total goes anywhere near £100 it'll be cheaper buying a secondhand lappy with a better spec.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memory's only £14.10 from Here (part KTT3614/256).

I'd try that as a cheap, first option as it doesn't involve loads of labour or mucking about with your operating system.

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PostPosted: 12:46 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you gather i'm no Computer wizzard but how come i can only upgrade to 512MB?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a limitation of the machine, you've got two slots that can only take 256mb each.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just a limitation of the machine, you've got two slots that can only take 256mb each.


That makes sence since i says:

Slot 1: 256MB
Slot 2: 128MB

So need to change the Slot 2 for another 256MB.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're usually better off buying a matched pair, but £14 for trying one 256mb stick of RAM wouldn't go amiss.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 08 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
The memory's only £14.10 from Here (part KTT3614/256).

I'd try that as a cheap, first option as it doesn't involve loads of labour or mucking about with your operating system.

Mark


Well just looked at the manual the Slot 1&2 i can see is for PC cards. But have now found where the RAM is.

Which one of the 256MB ran do i need to buy or are they the same?

And as for the 20GB Hard Drive i'll wait and see before i change it since can put anything important on memory sticks.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 09 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendel wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
The memory's only £14.10 from Here (part KTT3614/256).

I'd try that as a cheap, first option as it doesn't involve loads of labour or mucking about with your operating system.

Mark


Well just looked at the manual the Slot 1&2 i can see is for PC cards. But have now found where the RAM is.

Which one of the 256MB ran do i need to buy or are they the same?

And as for the 20GB Hard Drive i'll wait and see before i change it since can put anything important on memory sticks.


Just buy the 256Mb memory module above (Kingston Memory part no. KTT3614/256). Remove the 128Mb module from your laptop and replace it with the new one. The machine (and Windows) will automatically detect the change.

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PostPosted: 06:12 - 09 Jul 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry was having a blonde moment didnt think about looking for the part number Rolling Eyes

Just ordered it now so hopefully the Laptop will be working better after.
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