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UnspeedySam
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Just rode 2 miles in the snow. DO NOT TRY THIS! Reply with quote

Rode to a little gathering a friend was having 2 miles away in Southampton, at about 7.30 in what was cold but perfectly good riding conditions. When I get ready to leave at about 11.30 I look out the window to find what can only be described as a blizzard.

Even on the roads they had bothered to grit I was fishtailing all over the place at about 5mph. Seems like under the snow a lovely little layer of ice had formed. On the hill which leads up to where I live, I managed to bin the bike at walking pace, even though I was riding in tyre tracks. So now I have no right foot peg but as far as I can see no other damage. I'm quite pleased with myself for only binning it once in the conditions.

Next time I'm walking home and getting the bike in the morning!

Picture I took before the ride to follow...
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i done this on monday on way to missus 5mph up her street shift down bike goes over bent right foot peg, break lever and grinded some of the exaust guard off good thing i got some crash bungs me thinks

tho i think the £40 honda wants to replace them is a bit much for 2 little bits
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still not as bad as this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFz2Q9TU_Wc

I mean seriously, just take a bus if weather is this bad...
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PostPosted: 02:05 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty much exactly what happened to me but on my right side...there aren't any buses at midnight and I didn't want to leave my bike outside a University Halls of Residence...bad decision clearly.

Anyone know the best way of reattaching an RXS100 footpeg?

edit: Also, while I've got my own thread. Is there any particular reason that the bike idles fine in weather like this when I first start it and then won't after a minute or two? It was threatening to die all the way home if I didn't keep it about 2k myself...
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photo a friend took before we left for what should be a 5 minute ride...
https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs603.ash2/155573_10150319086630237_580940236_15731652_2286500_n.jpg
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
Anyone know the best way of reattaching an RXS100 footpeg?


Easy. Sell your RXS and get an H100. Very Happy

I managed to ride 10 miles in the snow on roads the radio was saying were "impassable" the other day. Was managing as well as the cars, tbh.

The thing I worry about most is hitting a clear stretch of road and then going over some black ice. In fact I would prefer to ride on fresh snow or the hard packed ice stuff to a clear road where I might be going faster and the bike give way under me.
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went out today also, on my cg125. I guess small bikes are better in the snow Very Happy

Most of the roads were clear from other traffic.

I didnt try *riding* up or down any snowy hills. The couple I had to go through I decided its better to walk it up, with it in 1st. Much easier with feet properly on ground.


I did drop it though, stopping at a junction, on a hill, as I put my feet down I toppled over. My mirror and footpeg is bent but thats all....

***I will ride in snow like this, and the melted slush is ok, but when it starts to freeze and turns to ice, that will be too much risk for me.
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of it is down to not having a clue of how to ride in this weather. There was literally no grip so however slow I went my wheel was spinning and don't even talk to me about changing direction. Any tips on techniques...not that I plan on trying this again...
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PostPosted: 02:33 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I did it was keeping my feet down most if not all of the time, slipping the clutch a fair bit and not giving the bike enough beans to let the back wheel spin easily (easy on the H as it hasn't much power below about 4500rpm, probably much the same on the RXS) and let it stall rather than chuck you off.

Once I was going I just rode very gently, up the gears before I hit the power band, and looked well ahead, stopped without using the brakes at all and planning ahead more than usual so at least 4 seconds behind the car in front.

Also looking at your pic I would carry less stuff, and carry it on your back rather than in your panniers/top box, taking away as much weight as possible.
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pernig wrote:
The way I did it was keeping my feet down most if not all of the time, slipping the clutch a fair bit and not giving the bike enough beans to let the back wheel spin easily (easy on the H as it hasn't much power below about 4500rpm, probably much the same on the RXS) and let it stall rather than chuck you off.

Once I was going I just rode very gently, up the gears before I hit the power band, and looked well ahead, stopped without using the brakes at all and planning ahead more than usual so at least 4 seconds behind the car in front.

I was doing the same thing, I guess the lack of cars that had used the roads since it started snowing didn't help. Even going straight it constantly felt like the front was about to fall over...

Pernig wrote:
Also looking at your pic I would carry less stuff, and carry it on your back rather than in your panniers/top box, taking away as much weight as possible.

Only thing I was carrying was my little tankbag come tailpack and it only had a couple of spanners in it. The 'pannier' is my helmet covered in snow Razz
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PostPosted: 02:53 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
I was doing the same thing, I guess the lack of cars that had used the roads since it started snowing didn't help. Even going straight it constantly felt like the front was about to fall over...


Are you sure your front brake isn't binding? Only time my bike feels like that is like REALLY deep snow.
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pernig wrote:
beechbone wrote:
I was doing the same thing, I guess the lack of cars that had used the roads since it started snowing didn't help. Even going straight it constantly felt like the front was about to fall over...


Are you sure your front brake isn't binding? Only time my bike feels like that is like REALLY deep snow.

It wasn't the snow it was the sheet of ice under said snow. The whole bike was weaving all over the place Sad Not trying that again...
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PostPosted: 03:41 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
It wasn't the snow it was the sheet of ice under said snow. The whole bike was weaving all over the place Sad Not trying that again...


That's why I asked. Seems weird that your front is letting go so easily. Think of your front wheel like a wheelbarrow, unless you push it too hard or slam on the brake or turn too quickly it should be OK.
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode from Medway to east Sussex and back yesterday in what can best be described as Antarctic conditions. I was half expecting to see Ranulph Fiennes appear at any moment leading a team of huskies Laughing It was a bit hair raising, for sure. But the old RXS soldiered on as ever. The buses and trains were off in places, so Yam 1 Public Transport 0 Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pernig wrote:

That's why I asked. Seems weird that your front is letting go so easily. Think of your front wheel like a wheelbarrow, unless you push it too hard or slam on the brake or turn too quickly it should be OK.


Not really - you can easily lose the front in freezing conditions just from the camber in the road.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

On tuesday night I went footy. When I got back to my bit at abot 11PM I couldn't control the bike so well because most of the road was iced up.

However I am cycling it to work now. Even on the bicycle the back wheel is spinning tbough, it's the ice underneath that is a problem in London, not enough to cars on smaller roads to melt it, and enough cars that it's been grounded down and not pure snow.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
edit: Also, while I've got my own thread. Is there any particular reason that the bike idles fine in weather like this when I first start it and then won't after a minute or two? It was threatening to die all the way home if I didn't keep it about 2k myself...



The would be the cold. Smaller engines need a bit of revs to keep them going in the cold.

I used a moped to get to work until the heavier snow started coming down, wouldnt work on elec start but would on kick start in the coldest times (work nights so has been down to -7 degrees) keep it going for a few minutes and then its fine, would need to keep the revs up though to make sure its warming up ok.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike + Snow = Ouch time... Confused

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=209906
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Re: Just rode 2 miles in the snow. DO NOT TRY THIS! Reply with quote

I've often found the tyre tracks aren't the best and will sometimes go for entirely virgin snow.
It's also quite unpredictable, but you tend to get more of a chance to keep it up. However, as mentioned above; camber can also be important; on the GSXR in really nasty snow last year I kept almost sliding in to the kerb while doing 5-7mph.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and let your tyres down a bit too.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be easy enough on the RXS as it's so light, as long as you can get traction to move forward it just takes practice.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yarri wrote:
Still not as bad as this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFz2Q9TU_Wc

I mean seriously, just take a bus if weather is this bad...


When I see that sort of thing I just think idiot. Not big, not funny and definitely not clever. Do that with a car coming in the opposite direction and it'll be a lot worse.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
Should be easy enough on the RXS as it's so light, as long as you can get traction to move forward it just takes practice.


Or just stand up and walk forward with it till it catches!
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 02 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted Evil i went out 2 days ago for a little piss about in the snow an binned it twice not to bad cuz i was expecting it i just kind of layd the bike down no damage. however like you i went to a small gathering say gathering we just smashed the hell out of cod black ops while having a little toke. anyway i rode the 9 miles back from kettering to wellingborough without incident' got outside my house went to ride up the drop curb which had frozen over and must of hit it wrong front wheel slipped out and i binned the bike smashing my knee off the floor snapping my brake lever and breaking my exaust bracket!!! hot fuckin typical is that doing it right outside my own house!!!!!!ff Twisted Evil
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