50cc Help

[patroddy]

Hey im 15 and will be starting an apprenticeship in july. i am therefor going to need transport and have decided to go for a 50cc bike as i love bikes.

However my parents themselves know nothing about bikes so tis is where you people come in. I want to stay well clear of them crappy peds :L and would like a machine that looks close to a proper bike.

My Requirements are as followed;
Cheap to insure
Cheapish to buy (if possible)
Reliable
and nice looking

the style of bike i would like are either a bike like a derbi senda(supermotard/enduro style), or gilera dna (road bike looking style) also my final problem is im rather small about 5ft6" at a push :L

MANY THANKS
Patrick Roddy
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[Sky]

Yamaha YBR 125.
It's cheap, reliable, nice looking traditional bike.

I have one, been driving it for about a year now engine is a solid piece of kit. Its a nice starter bike.

[andyscooter]

op is 15 so needs a 50cc
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gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
if its spelt wrong its my fat fingers and daft auto correct on my tablet

[Sky]

Lol, just saw you wanted a 50cc..
Well, take a look at Autotrader, I don't know much about 50cc bikes.

How about this one, if your a little on the small side?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201049375100038/sort/priceasc/usedbikes/cc-to/50cc/body-type/minibike/radius/1500/postcode/ig75eu/page/1?logcode=p

[patroddy]

i was kinda looking for something more of a 50cc bike not a 40cc as tbh i need to be able to keep up with traffic and then derestrict it when im oldernough for a bigger capacity

another bike ive thought of is kinroad xt 50???
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[patroddy]

[Livefast123]

Do yourself a favour and keep away from any nasty chinese tat otherwise you'll be spending more time fixing your bike than going to college.

What kind of budget do you have, there are loads of 50cc race reps out there but none of them tend to be cheap to insure, or cheap to run due to the need for synthetic 2 stroke oils. Another problem with that type of bike is that the type of owner that has them tends to know nothing about maintainance and abuses them.

Take your pick from
Aprilia RS50
Yamaha TZR 50
Derbi GPR50
Rieju RS2 50 ect ect

Super Moto / Trailies
Derbi Senda 50
Yamaha DT 50
Suzuki TS 50
Aprilia RX50 ect ect

Personally I would just get a cheap twist and go 50 to get you back and fore to college. It will do the job with less maintainance and will be more reliable than the above. Use the money you've saved to buy a decent 125 or do your test when your 17. Whichever 50 you choose you can't go above 31 Mph legally so you may as well do it on the cheapest one possible.

Edit......I do realise the need to impress lovely large breasted college beauties though
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[patroddy]

[Drake]

i had a 57 senda, had a few problems to start with such as melting the spark plug after a month, but from then on it was a nice good bike, oh and the aprilia rx50 and derbi senda 50 and gpr50/newer ts50 all use the newer derbi engine which can be quite quick derestricted and jetted propperly, i had a reliable 55 out of mine
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was: derbi senda, aprilia sx125, nsr250 mc16, cagiva mito, cb600 hornet now: mk1 bandit, KR1S, landrover series 3 light weight 2.5 petrol, 5speed box

[patroddy]

How much waas your senda to buy?? And how much to insure??

And would me not being tall affect me being able to ride the senda????
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[Drake]

it was £1500 nd £500 tpft in yo26 area, most of them are de restricted.
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was: derbi senda, aprilia sx125, nsr250 mc16, cagiva mito, cb600 hornet now: mk1 bandit, KR1S, landrover series 3 light weight 2.5 petrol, 5speed box

[patroddy]

Please can you repost this as it doesn't make much sense sorry :L

[B]

Model 2001 but the conditions are mints bought it for £450, no problems only had to change the throttle holder thing.

looks brilliant.

also restricted
not yet insuranced though but got quoted £363.
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Gilera DNA 50.

[Drake]

right it cost back in feb 2010 £1500, and insurance in a rural york area was £500ish thirdparty fire and theft stored off the roads locked up, they are expensive to insure, my sx125 was gettin on for £750
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was: derbi senda, aprilia sx125, nsr250 mc16, cagiva mito, cb600 hornet now: mk1 bandit, KR1S, landrover series 3 light weight 2.5 petrol, 5speed box

[bhinso]

I'd get a derbi senda, or peugeot xps.
Maybe a TS50 if one came up, or an aprilia rx50.

[bikertomm]

Motorhispania Furia 50 is a good bike, pretty rare though
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[fiveus]

yamaha dt 50

[Jon-W]

when I was 16 I made that same choice. Gilera DNA or Derbi Senda. Thank F**K I didnt go for the Gilera DNA. Awful looking/sounding scooters in my opinion.

I never found the Derbi brilliant in the rain and found the build quality poor but they are very nice looking mopeds. Also be aware the Gilera RCR is exactly the same bike as the Senda but rebranded. Parts arent to hard to get hold of, I found these guys very usefull https://www.bike-spares.co.uk/.

[Rogerborg]

First, any bike that you can (legally) ride will be a "ped". What you will have after you get your provisional and complete a CBT course will be a license to ride a "moped", which is defined as up to 50cc and limited to 31mph/50kph, or apparently 28mph/45kph since 2003. Manual or twist-n-go ("scooter") doesn't matter, it'll still be a "ped", so you needn't go putting on airs and graces.

Bear in mind that you'll be riding it for a year, and then if you've got an ounce of sense, you'll sell it and do an A2 test on a 125 and get yourself an A license with a 2 year 25kW restrioction - licensing laws are going to get worse for young riders in January 2013, so don't hang around.

So I'd suggest that you just get whatever's available in your area in your budget. If it's got 2 wheels, goes and stops, it'll get the job done. If you must pick a "theme", then I'd suggest going for the tallest superenduromotardcrosser bike you can find, simple because it'll give better visibility.

What I'd actually suggest though is that you get a pushbike, since buzzing along at 28mph on a ped is just the ride speed to aggravate the hell out of White Van Man and get you ridden off the road. I personally wouldn't ride a motorised vehicle on UK roads that couldn't maintain at least 40mph on the flat. Your life though.
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[Fridgy]

I had a Honda Zoomer whilst I struggled through a scooter phase. About the best 50cc engine on two wheels out there (imo).

[patroddy]

hmm thanks for the advice, i do plan on derestricting it now after decideing it is more safer to go faster :L, but im only like 5ft6" so id struggle with anything too large :L
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[Drake]

u will learn how to use a bike thats a bit to big for you, how to get a foot down, go round shops sitting on bikes
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[patroddy]

what do you mean by ill learn on a bike too big???
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[Drake]

you will learn to slide of the seat to get a fott down when stopped, and the derbi senda's aren't that tall to be honest
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was: derbi senda, aprilia sx125, nsr250 mc16, cagiva mito, cb600 hornet now: mk1 bandit, KR1S, landrover series 3 light weight 2.5 petrol, 5speed box