Private Number Plates and Age of bike *UPDATE*

[rizo-sri200]

Private Number Plates and Age of bike

Right my bike is on a G plate but was only imported in september 2002 from japan and im wondering if i can put an R plate on it as it is a 1996/7 plate but your not allowed to make the bike look newer

bike first registered in 2002 so does that mean i could put it on??

Just that my parents are thinking about getting me a personal plate for my b-day

Thanks
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[MarsBar]

Not sure but think this isn't allowed as the bike was initially registered as a 1989 (G reg) bike, regardless of which country it was built.

Best ask the DVLA.

[rizo-sri200]

anyways im gonna give them a ring tomorrow (if their open) and see what they say?
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[Ste]

No. You cannot try to make your car appear newer than it is by changing the plates.

[rizo-sri200]

who said anything about a "car"??

I didnt.....

C'mon ste pull ya finger out
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[hustler]

Ste's right on this one, can't make it look newer than it is.
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Car or bike doesn't matter. Same rules.

[rizo-sri200]

...but on my V5 is says date of first registraitiom september 2002 so it would make it look older..
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[carvell]

That makes no difference - it's the year the vehicle was built that matters - obviously.
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[Retro-Man]

If you are buying a private plate then yes you can put any number, letter configuration you like on it ...as long as you have the plate registered with dvla and that combination is available.. you will receive a certificate of entitlement from dvla,, this type of plate transfer is commonly referred to as a cherished plate...

I deal with these all the time working in a landrover dealership and a lot of people do it to make their vehicle appear ageless.

do a google search on cherished plate or private plates there are tons of companys willing to sell/do the paperwork for you.
depending on the plate you can pay as little as £150
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[Kickstart]

[Retro-Man]

partially right you can not put a standard plate for example "R506TYH"
simply because dvla register all possibilities of these plates before plate issue commencement however if available you can have "R6YAM" or "PIA50"

one of our rangerover customers has a plate consisting of "57TM"
all of these plates will either make the vehicle apparently ageless or in the case of R6yam make the vehicle at first glance appear to be an R plate vehicle

there is no restriction on configuration as long as that plate is not already assigned a vehicle, however as you point out dvla do pre-assign plates automatically.
Plates are assigned regionally in fact as a dealer using the new plate format on registering a new vehicle for the first time the first two letters are assigned by area designation the numbers are assigned in order of registration and as long as they have not already been assigned we can request any order of the last letters

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[Retro-Man]

in fact on the rare occasion a vehicle is written off the plate will become available again after xx number of years left dormant meaning that you could have a cherished plate "R506YAH"
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[Ste]

You can do anything you want, but if the bike has the plate L123 ABC you can't put anything newer than an L plate on it.

[hustler]

The rule is simple if changing the plate makes it younger than you can't do it. The idea is so that it protects the rest of us from buying some we think is a 1999(T) and it turns out to be a 1988 (E).

So if your plate was "L123 ABC", you couldnt put "M1 CBR" because it would look newer. You could put "CBR 600" though as that is ageless (probably cost a fortune too).
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[Retro-Man]

https://www.dvlni.gov.uk/formsfolder/v317info.pdf

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rule on ageless plates just to clear this up once and for all
this rule only affects age identifier plates non age indentifier plates can be used in any configuration as in "R6YAM"

M1CBR is possible because it is a non age identified plate
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[Kickstart]

Hi

I thought that stuff like "R6YAM" was just a normal R reg plate, and thus you are free to put it on a vehicle that would be R reg or newer. When they changed the order of the plates in 1983 they stopped issuing numbers below 20 regularly, but then started selling these later on. Thought all the ones that they sell are ones that were allocated for use (such as those below 20) but never issued.

PIA50 is just an old Northern Ireland plate, an Antrim one to be precise from about 20 years ago.

All the best

Keith
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[Retro-Man]

I stand corrected



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[Mnementh]

IIRC it actually goes on the date the vehicle was first registered here, ie a car/bike could have been built in say 1994 but sat in the manufacturers lot for 4 years or so (I used to work for Landrover and they have hundreds of vehicles sitting around waiting for parts), then if say for instance the vehicle has been updated a dealer can sell the 1994 car at a discount because it's the old model but it will STILL have a new registration plate because they go on when the vehicle was registered with the DVLA. So in this case the 1994 vehicle could have a 1998 plate even though it is the older model because of when it was registered.

Hope that makes sense. I don't know whether this would apply to a vehicle already registered in another country, and then re-registered over here, but it certainly applies to vehicles here.

[NSR125-Kid-UK]

[bladerrx]

just to put a fly in the ointment
you cannot change the registration of a PRE REGISTERED vehicle to that of a newer year.................but if like the man said it was first registered in 2002 then he can have any plate older than that,
the year of manufacture is nothing at all to do with the year of registration which is why it is a REGISTRATION plate.
just as an example of this i have a 2000 (x) plated bike which is a 1998 model
and also you can buy a brand new 03 model r1 and register it in 5 years time making it a 2008 new r1, only the model would give away the fact
sorry to go on but there is a bike shop in batley (padgetts) who had a brand new unregistered suzuki gt380 so if you bought this it would become a 04 plated bike
sorry
chris
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[hugo-a-gogo]

yep, true. it's date of registration that counts, not date of manufacture.
you can't put a plate with a 'year letter' or number on a vehicle registered before that plate

it's a good scam that the government have going though, in conjunction with the car dealers. most other countries don't have age identifiers on the plate, and I don't know of any others that charge so much for choosing your own number
(i paid 20euro to pick a number - i only needed the 'D' for Düsseldorf at the beginning, then one or two letters and between 1 and 4 numbers)
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[rizo-sri200]

i rang the DVLA...

and they said i cant becuase of the year of manufacter (WTF is it a called a registration Plate)

Can have any from Before G. Why would i when i want R15 JCR!!!

Argh!
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[Brookleigh]

I have been reading most peoples replies to the this subject, and have joined the forum to try to help out people and give some advise.

I have been making number plates, and answering peoples problems for 8 years now, I don't know all the answers, but then neither do DVLA!!! - and thats no joke.

Here are some helpful links to get the ball rolling.
https://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_current_requirements.htm
DVLA's Link on Number plates

Our Q & A Page https://www.craigsplates.com/QA.htm

And my email if you have any other questions we can help with craig@craigsplates.com

We are designing at the moment a site just dedicated for bike plates, but at present just take a look at https://www.craigsplates.com