Pre heating coolant before startup in the winter?

[ilduce]

I hate the idea of starting a combustion engine that is -15 degrees C with stone hard oil etc.

I would like to build in a micro water pump. I imagine a 12v pump (or one for the wall plug would also be ok) that i can insert in the middle of a hose, and it will pump the water through the system, while i heat up the radiator.

Maybe i could some 12V Peltier elements to heat up the radiator?

Maybe a pump like this: https://www.campingshop.dk/produkt/vandpumpe-12v-comet-elegant-8-ltr.aspx

[temeluchus]

I've seen them for cars and bigger but not for bikes, I'd imagine it would take a fair amount of current to drive a pump and an adequate heater.....

You could just point a fan heater at the bike for a while?
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[0ddball]

I think the most popular was made by Kenlowe. But tbh its a waste of time on a bike.
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[Vincent]

[doggone]

I don't follow the logic of heating the radiator to avoid cold thick oil.
Surely you'd want to warm the sump if anything?
In a dry but unheated garage you could do that with a low wattage heater or even a light bulb under the bike.
Much easier if you really had to ride it the two mornings we get below -10C

[Bezzer]

[ilduce]

We have about 70 of those days? Then what about a peltier element on the oil pan maybe?

Heater is no go, since i do not have a garage.

[jimspeed]

a lot of modern diesels now use a pipe with 3 glow plugs screwed into it maybe you could use something like that?
I'll be using me car when its -15 tho personally as I'm a wimp
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[ilduce]

Hehe, yeah i could use something like that, but it sounds expensive?

[weasley]

In cold countries it's quite common to have a sump heater on a car or truck, which is plugged in to the mains via a weatherproof socket. Could easily just be stuck on the outside of the sump but would need mains supply rather than from the battery.
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[jimspeed]

like this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-206-Fuel-heater-2-0-Hdi-diesel-pre-heater-Dw10-/330557047716?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf6bc43a4
not sure how often you would need to recharge a good sized car battery or maybe a leasure battery?
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[The Artist]

You are better off just sticking an electric heater under the sump so long as it is exposed and not covered by a belly pan or something.

10w40 oil is designed to work down to well below freezing. I cba searching but there is a chart which tells you what weight oils work in what temperatures.

[The Shaggy D.A.]

https://www.fluidmasters.com.au/images/saeviscosity.gif

Given that we are largely UK based, our info may not be as specific as could be - what do other bikers in Denmark with no garages do?
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[tatters]

Blow torch under the sump to heat the oil up before starting, Widely used in Russia etc during the winter mostly on large diesal trucks.


just keep it away from rubber seals/cables etc.
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[stinkwheel]

Use mobil 1 oil. Stays runny even at stupidly sub-zero temperatures.

Older urals used to have an ash pan to put under the sump.
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[Teflon-Mike]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[unitynotsocri...]

shove an electric fan heater under the sump connected to a time switch and a cicuit breaker/rcd,if the bike is under cover.
if you commute through the winter then a sump heater might pay for itself in time ,petrol and wear and tear on a larger cc bike.
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[orac]

use this before you pull off each morning, should get the whole thing warmed up real nice

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/little-devil-propane-fired-space-heater?da=1&TC=SRC-propane heater

you can get bigger ones too

[Teflon-Mike]

[ilduce]

Thank you guys, but i think that the peltier elements will win the fight. They let the oil pan become the heater.

The idea was to make bearings etc. get warm before start. They wont get worm just by heating up the oil

Mike: Overshare

[temeluchus]

[Teflon-Mike]

[Gazdaman]

If it's cold enough out to make me worry that the oil might be thick and goopy, am I fuck riding the bike to work.

Gaz