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bradyios
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Any tip on doing CBT? Reply with quote

Hi, I'm 16 and have just bought my new scooter, its a Peugeot Jetforce 50. My license came a couple of days ago and my CBT is booked for next satuday.

Do you guys have any tips? I'm driving a Peugeot Lux.

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PostPosted: 18:28 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Listen.
2. BLOODY LISTEN!
3. Look where you want to go, not where you are going
4. If you feel you are going to fast, roll off the throttle a little. Dont shut it off and grab a load of front brake.
5. Get the coffees in for the lads Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the house of fun!

Ok, CBT.

1. Turn up a bit early, so you can chat & relax a bit before the start.

2. Make sure you have BOTH parts of your licence - or there's no road ride!

3. Either take your own bike-gloves/helmet & decent boots or make sure the school has some to lend you. No gear = no riding.

LISTEN and LEARN, they know all, you know bugger-all.

If you don't understand something or aren't happy with something then say so, after all you're paying for this.

Lastly enjoy it, it's good fun and not that difficult.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

would have loved to be a fly on the wall at that meeting..

"yeah we have a new scooter to appeal to the 16yr old market, what shall we call it"

"... jetforce?"

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PostPosted: 18:56 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...

Use the schools' bike not your own, just in case you do happen to drop it.

If you insist on using your own bike it MUST be taxed, MOT'd (if required) and you MUST have insurance and you MUST take all the paperwork with you. And remember you can't ride to the school on it yourself.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Also...

Use the schools' bike not your own, just in case you do happen to drop it.

If you insist on using your own bike it MUST be taxed, MOT'd (if required) and you MUST have insurance and you MUST take all the paperwork with you. And remember you can't ride to the school on it yourself.


Thats what I've already had in mind, haha. This might sound stupid, but they won't chuck me on a geared biked will they, it'll just be a twist 'n go?
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bradyios wrote:
Andy_Pagin wrote:
Also...

Use the schools' bike not your own, just in case you do happen to drop it.

If you insist on using your own bike it MUST be taxed, MOT'd (if required) and you MUST have insurance and you MUST take all the paperwork with you. And remember you can't ride to the school on it yourself.


Thats what I've already had in mind, haha. This might sound stupid, but they won't chuck me on a geared biked will they, it'll just be a twist 'n go?


You can choose.
Geared all the way Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:


You can choose.
Geared all the way Thumbs Up


Not at 16 you can't, Unless by some miracle they have a speed limited geared 50.

You will be on a twist 'n go
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bradyios wrote:
Andy_Pagin wrote:
Also...

Use the schools' bike not your own, just in case you do happen to drop it.

If you insist on using your own bike it MUST be taxed, MOT'd (if required) and you MUST have insurance and you MUST take all the paperwork with you. And remember you can't ride to the school on it yourself.


Thats what I've already had in mind, haha. This might sound stupid, but they won't chuck me on a geared biked will they, it'll just be a twist 'n go?


It's your call, (assuming the school has a geared moped, which they won't) the purpose of the CBT course is simply to get a CBT certificate, then you can ride geared or twisty regardless of what you did the CBT on.

Twist & go is way easier and you'll have a much better chance of ending the day with the certificate in your hand. And since you already have a twist & go, and are likely to stay on one for a year then that's the route I'd take.


As I implied above CBT is NOT proper training, its the absolute bare basics, so don't leave thinking you're in anyway qualified.

I'd recommend forking out a tenner for a hazard perception test practice kit, getting a book on learning to ride, and practice the theory test somewhere like https://www.all4bikers.com/theory/

You have a hell of a lot to learn and having zero road experience you really need to read up as much as you can. I started riding almost a year ago having driven cars for nearly thirty years (getting on for half a million miles) and I've had to really work at it to get safe & confident.

Riding is great fun but it is dangerous and you do have to take is seriously.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:


You can choose.
Geared all the way Thumbs Up


Not at 16 you can't, Unless by some miracle they have a speed limited geared 50.

You will be on a twist 'n go


Oh right yeah, 16, missed that bit. Moped 4 u baby.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are struggling with any thing let the trainer know.so he/she can give you a bit more tuition.As said above listen listen listen and enjoy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple of things NOT to do:

1. Don't play MotoGP/SBK/GTA/Project Gotham before you go.

2. Don't sit on your 'ped revving it's knackers off while your instructors are trying to talk to you. It's bad form.

3. Don't think you know it all. You don't.

4. Try not to fall off.

5. Don't think that once you've done the CBT that's all there is to know. You've got a lifetime of learning ahead.

6. Don't think you're staying on a 'ped while you're a member here. We will harass you until you've graduated onto a geared bike and then done your full test.

Simple.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 01 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

7. Don't grab at the front brake, you will end up on the floor with a bruised shin, bruised ego, and a group of people laughing at you.

8. On your road ride show respect to other road users. Bear in mind peds are slow and you will be overtaken and other road users will show you little respect as a result, just relax and don't let it get to you.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most important piece of advice I have not read yet is...............

Get a copy of the Highway Code (£2.50) and READ it!
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daytona Paul wrote:
The most important piece of advice I have not read yet is...............

Get a copy of the Highway Code (£2.50) and READ it!


Good call. Available online. The 17 year old I was on my CBT with had no bloody idea, shot a red and nearly got pasted. Shocked

Remember, it's training, not a test. You're a customer, not a candidate: get your money's worth by asking questions.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Daytona Paul wrote:
The most important piece of advice I have not read yet is...............

Get a copy of the Highway Code (£2.50) and READ it!


Good call. Available online. The 17 year old I was on my CBT with had no bloody idea, shot a red and nearly got pasted. Shocked

Remember, it's training, not a test. You're a customer, not a candidate: get your money's worth by asking questions.


Surely you don't need to read the highway code to know to stop at red lights Shocked
I've yet to read it properly...even though signing for your provisional license, i think it says you have to have read the highway code Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far is advice is concerned, the best piece we can give is to listen.

I can also not stress enough the "look where you want to go" thing. When you're doing your U-turn and the instructor tells you to look where you want to go, do it. Looking at that bush to make sure that you don't hit it will only make you hit it. Yes, I did that. Oops.

Front brake whilst turning is also a big no-no. If you don't do it right your bike and you are going to end up on the floor. My instructor demonstrated this to me on the CBT by getting me to push the bike around an imaginary corner and press the front brake. If he wasn't holding the bike too I would have dropped the ruddy thing!

Rogerborg wrote:
The 17 year old I was on my CBT with had no bloody idea, shot a red and nearly got pasted. Shocked


Natural selection. Laughing With the unfortunate inconvenience to others.

carlosthejackal wrote:
2. Don't sit on your 'ped revving it's knackers off while your instructors are trying to talk to you. It's bad form.


Please don't do this, not ever. It's not cool and it doesn't sound good. The only people who appreciate it are other ped riders, everyone else is day-dreaming what it would be like to grab that rock by your foot and.. um.. oh, is that only me?

Alpha-9 wrote:
Surely you don't need to read the highway code to know to stop at red lights Shocked
I've yet to read it properly...even though signing for your provisional license, i think it says you have to have read the highway code Rolling Eyes


Most of it is [un]common sense anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 02 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take sarnies & drink. If you smoke, make sure you have fags & lighter. (Ask Instructor where and when you can smoke if you do!)

Get there early. Empty mind of all else. Forget any preconceptions, presumptions, prior knowledge of bikes, powered or otherwise, cars, trucks, or anything else; and soak up the knowledge.

(note book and pen to jot down acronyms and pearls of wisdom, for future reference, can be useful)

and ENJOY.

Its JUST a lesson; you dont have to know fuck all before you begin; just listen and do as you are instructed.

If you struggle; ask for help or advice, dont sit schtumm afraid of looking stupid... you have a wally bib and helmet hair, you look stupid anyway, as will the instructor... though with the occupation having an affinity to baldness we might not have the hair, to suffer helmet hair... but we'll still look a bit daft!

Dont Loose your 'Head' - pay attention to your helmet; don't put it down mindlessly... too easy for them to be knocked about, even run over! Especially when you are paying attention to an instructor talking to you.

DON'T balence helmets on bike seats.

DON'T try and prop them on the back of your head.

They are ON or OFF.

If they are ON, straps done up.

If they are OFF. they go on the floor, on top of gloves, or a secure surface well away from the edge.

NEAT-FEET: my CBT hobby Horse. If your moving, feet on the pegs. If your stopped feet on the floor. "Paddling" is something you do on the beach, NOT on a motorbike.

If a bike isn't moving, it will normally need some support to prop it up... you foot. But as SOON as the wheels are turning, it will aquire its own balence...

If you weren't on the thing, it would, provided the wheels were turning NOT fall over... so SOON as the wheels are turning, or you have got 'drive' starting to apply some shove, get them feet UP on the pegs or foot-boards and out the fucking way!

If you rode a push-bike, you'd start one foot on the pedal, and have your foot up, before other foot had got to the bottom of its stroke, or you wouldn't be able to keep pedelling, would you... motorbike only takes away the need to pedal, but not having pedals or so much to do with your feet, doesn't mean you have to find something and wag them around, to flap them about!

They wont stop the bike falling over, and flapping them around not sure what to do with them is only more likely to make you loose balence!

And leave them there until you are STOPPED. Again. wont do anything to stop you falling unless you're stopped, apart from wagging around making you more wobbly!

Like hats on head, feet are up, or they are down, NO inbetween! NEAT-FEET, keep it tidy.

Rest should all fall into place of its own accord!

See Here: He`s gone and done it now-One more to go for full Licence Blog Charting Snowie (my O/H's) progress from Theory/Hazard, through CBT to 'almost' full licence.
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