Counter steering, on a moped!?

[Clutchy]

Excuse my lack of knowledge on this first of all

Ive been watching a few bike vids on counter steering, how to do it and how it works etc, but I was just wondering would it apply/work on a 50cc moped that does around 55, This is with regards to the shape (scooter) so would it work and is it worth while doing? Please no lectures on get a big bike and license as I will do ASAP!

Thanks, H
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[connornrg]

I get my knee down on the NRG and the rox, anything is possible on any bike however I don't recommend you do the knee down thing as the exhaust tends to go down aswell and that shit costs.
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Apart from low speed manoeuvres all steering on any bike is through counter-steering.

Try rounding a corner at about 30mph and pull gently on the outside grip. The bike will dip into the turn more tightly. Even a push-bike does it.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

Yes it does, you already do it subconciously but to try it conciously; pick a wide quiet road and see what happens when you turn the bars one way or the other - it will tip in and start to turn, probably in the opposite way to what you are thinking. It is good to get it ingrained in your head in case you need to turn quick in an emergency.

During SLOW turning the way you pull the bar is the way you turn, once you are going a bit faster and the bike needs to lean to make it round a bend then you need to countersteer.

All two wheeled vehicles, even bicycles do it .


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[lydanial]

I think the speed change is something like 15-20 mph and over requires counter steering. you will do it anyway as its quite natural and will of led on from your bicycle days.

[Clutchy]

Thanks guys! Will try this out consciously on some roads later
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[Taught2BCauti...]

The speed at which counter-steering becomes effective, depends on the weight of the bike and the diameter of the tyres, but usually starts to happen between 10 and 15mph.

You need to master counter-steering to successfully complete the swerve exercise on the Mod1 test, but even if you consciously try to body-steer, the bike will tend to counter-steer itself - you probably just weren't aware of it!

It's much better to consciously counter-steer and let your body follow the bike.

Just a thought - if your machine does 55mph, it's not technically a 'Moped' is it?
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[Babba]

I'll be using a wheelbarrow to put 5 tons of my old patio into a skip tommorrow.

Will I need to 'countersteer' the wheelbarrow to negotiate the obstacle course that is my driveway?

[St0rmer66]

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[Suntan Sid]

Counter steering!
FFS this subject really winds me up!

Never, in the history of biking, has so much bollox been written on one subject, (I blame the interweb!)

If you have to think about "counter steering" while your riding, two wheeled vehicles are NOT for you.

Sell your bikes & push irons now and buy something with more farkin' wheels, it'll save the emergency services having to scrape your remains of a lamp post.
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