Police hidden speed traps - is there a policy?

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There has been a few posts about speeding recently which have got me thinking...

Do the police have a policy for their speed traps? I'm thinking the ones where the officer has a speed gun/rader to point at vehicles.

I ask as passed one the other day (North Yorkshire - outside village of Hambilton - it's on A63 route to Squires). Now this guy was actually hiding behind a hedge peering out. He looked like Bodie or Doyle off the Professionals* about to shoot some villain.

Now I always though (perhaps wrongly) that the police were interested in safety, not in raising money from motorists who may edge over the limit. So if they are interested in safety why was he not in plain sight where he could be seen to encourage people to slow down (if indeed they were speeding in the first place).

If the only interest is covert money raising activities then he'd be sneeky and hide behind a hedge**. Oh wait, that's what he was doing!

So, does anyone know if the police have a 'safety' policy or should we expect them to hide (expect full rant from Hetzer).






* please substitute gun toting hard men from your own TV era for this analogy to work.

** also have been informed about scamera van on M180 before river Trent (J3 Scunthorpe - that's Humberside police then) that parks itself on a high spot so it can see you before you see it.
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[AyrtonSenna]

Maybe because the police officer wants to catch and punish speeding motorists. Perfect deterrent i say.

I prefer the above than giving a chance to a motorist to reduce their speed for that particular road, when everyone knows when the driver is out of sight he or she will resume their dangerous driving/riding.

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[nightshaddow]

as far as i am aware, any officers checking speed must be clearly visible to traffic on the road,

as far as i am aware this is for two reasons

1. for the officers and road users safety,
2. i believe they can be done for entrapment if they are hiding,

if you notice all speed cameras are marked up with plenty of notice that they are there, and most mobile units have big signs on them too (well they do here in york anyway)

a couple of years ago there was a bike following a car round some country roads near york and a hidden police car was on his radar/speed gun the car suddenly braked and the biker rear ended him i believe the officer was reprimanded for that.
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[Kwaks]

No general rule, down to individual forces.

I have seen police hiding in BT tents before


Edit: pepipoo tells the guidlines as they are

https://www.pepipoo.com/Hidden_speed_traps.htm
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[teuma86]

I was under the impression that there had to be those warning Speed Trap signs around the area of the speed trap.

Thus if a cop is hiding or in plain view and there are no road signs around warning of a speed trap then the ticket is void.

Which is why we see soo many warning speed traps signs but no fixed speed traps. (just a place for a cop to get you)

PLUS.
I have been cops sitting on bridges over motorways. With the van parked the other side of the bridge. Only way I noticed them was because I came from the other direction so saw the van first, then saw a high vis with (what appeared to be) a speed laser catching oncoming traffic.

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[N cee thirty]

lol,if they were interested in safety,they'd have camera's on every road in the country regardless of costs
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[duhawkz]

as i understand it (i may well be taking out my arse)

If its a safety camera - it has to be clearly visable and sign posted

if its police speed enforcement then it is perfectly ok for the to be covert about it
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[BikerDefenceS...]

The Department of Transport and ACPO have both produced guidelines on the use of different types of speed detection equipment, but they are not law. Thus, breach of the guidelines would not invalidate a prosecution for speeding unless there was bad faith involved, in which case you would argue that the police's actions were an abuse of process.
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[Alex_B]

On the way home from work today, pissing down with rain etc. I give way to the right on a lil roundabout. It's plod.

He immediately pulls over to the left and I have to go round, straight away he pulls out behind me. This is a 20mph, speed bumped, traffic calmed road.

I think "he's checking my plates" It's pretty freakin obvious really!!

I got nothing to worry about though

Why did he pull in??

Because they have quotas to fill, it's a fact, they are sent out with a "catch 15 vehicles today" mandate or be tea bagged by the chief super

I know a copper and he's given the catch 15 speel every month, your plodder was doing as directed by those above him.

Sad but true.
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