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Sam_Y_93
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Wheelies Reply with quote

Do they ever get any less addictive?

Only just started doing them, and can't seem to ride the bike without lifting it up. Smashed the front pretty hard a few times as I get nervous when it comes up too high and shut the throttle, even smoothly it still slams down, any tips?

Can't get it up in second either, the front goes a bit light but that's all. Any ideas on how to get some height?

It's a hornet 600 by the way
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nose-heavy tourer like a Hornet won't go up in anything but first.

The trick is to get it up on the balance point before you run out of revs.

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PostPosted: 19:43 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

down gear it, -1 on the front and change from first to second with clutch lifts the front, would come up with a tug. just note your speedo will read wrong
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not interested in down gearing, just wondered if there was something I was doing wrong in second.

Will just keep with my occasionally mediocre ones in first Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may sound a newbie question but i cant seem to wheelie...

hows the easiest way on a vfr800?
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

accelerate to about 20, pull the clutch in, throttle to about 10k and then drop the clutch.

cover the back brake.

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PostPosted: 20:13 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
A nose-heavy tourer like a Hornet won't go up in anything but first.

The trick is to get it up on the balance point before you run out of revs.

HTH


Hornets aren't nose heavy at all, if anything they get have a tendency to shake their heads when powering out of bends on bumpy surfaces because the front goes light, that why lower bars like Renthals make such a big difference.

It's possible to lift it in second, just use more revs.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy dumping the clutch on my hornet, wheelie for about 3-5 seconds and let it down smoothly as i run out of revs with my throttle stop,

cant seem to wheelie in 2nd think mainly due to my throttle stop
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRF-Rider wrote:
I enjoy dumping the clutch on my hornet, wheelie for about 3-5 seconds and let it down smoothly as i run out of revs with my throttle stop,

cant seem to wheelie in 2nd think mainly due to my throttle stop


Sick, you got any vids on youtube?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
What about a GS500? Nuff power or not?


I've not had it up on the GS500 yet. Had the front end twitchy but not up. Well I'm not sure if I got it up by accident today with a pillion. Mine's restricted though. From about 3k-4k slipping the clutch up to about 8k-9k and dumping it.

Paddy reckons he got his GS500 up.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3v-pZ3NwtSI&NR=1

Can't tell if it's on stock gearing in that video but they can be lifted albeit with a bit of persuasion, only managed to get any decent lift on mine with the topbox on the back and some considerable weight within, roll on from 10mph at maybe 2k dumped clutch at 9ish I think.

MZ on the other hand before I fitted flat bars wheelied a treat just a shame it is a little heavy and power does run out a little quick.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikertomm wrote:
CRF-Rider wrote:
I enjoy dumping the clutch on my hornet, wheelie for about 3-5 seconds and let it down smoothly as i run out of revs with my throttle stop,

cant seem to wheelie in 2nd think mainly due to my throttle stop


Sick, you got any vids on youtube?


not really no, i want to set up the gopro on the ground and try to wheelie past it
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
_Iain_ wrote:
What about a GS500? Nuff power or not?


Paddy reckons he got his GS500 up.


With my brother on the back too Laughing

You can downgear it to do this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZT-fctm0_I
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
You can downgear it to do this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZT-fctm0_I


00:52 to 00:58.

Yes, yes I probably could do that. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
accelerate to about 20, pull the clutch in, throttle to about 10k and then drop the clutch.

cover the back brake.

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Whaaaa? That would flip far too easily, dump the clutch at about 6-7 lifts the front to the point of feeling like it will flip.

Agree on the front getting wobbly coming out of corners, been a bit scary at times.

May have to have a go in second and just rev the tits off of it, now I'm used to it coming able and sort of getting it back down again I think I migh be able to do it.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Timmeh wrote:
accelerate to about 20, pull the clutch in, throttle to about 10k and then drop the clutch.

cover the back brake.

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Whaaaa? That would flip far too easily, dump the clutch at about 6-7 lifts the front to the point of feeling like it will flip.


I can get the thundercat up from 4k now slipping the clutch to about 8k.

I can also pull it up from about 7k rev to 12k, but there isn't enough revs to keep it up.

You wont flip it, it often feels far higher than it is.

https://yesterdaystheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/yay.jpg

That felt like I was right up... as you can see not even close Laughing

This is maybe a few inches higher than the photo above, looks far higher though! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S14Qs062R_o

I'll take the GoPro tomorrow and divert my journey home and see if I can get some roadside footage.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet it would wheelie in 2nd, accelerate quite hard and as you hit around 40mph pop the clutch and give it some more throttle as you do it. When you get used to it you will be able judge how much throttle you need as you clutch it up at different revs. Sitting back helps and don't lean into the wheelie when it comes up.

Loads of stuff on here about wheelies, use the search...
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

6.30, park and ride. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That video is as good as I'd like to get, I don't want to be on the balancing point holding it for miles, it would be awesome but it's not going to happen Laughing

I've had it run out of revs a few times but when it feels too high I chop the throttle. Will try and set up a camera so I can see what's going on a bit better, and if they are any good ill upload them
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've been doing is working out how high it gets before it feels super light.

If you ride along in 1st to about 5k, slip with clutch (don't pull it all the way... just enough to add the revs without increasing too much speed) pop it to somewhere around 10k and burst the power on... give it an initial surge and then be soft with it.

I can get mine going from about 10mph to the rev limiter on the power with it not at the balance point (probably far from) but it does the whole gear Laughing

Get somewhere quiet with a friend, last thing you want is to lose control alone..
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mattspratt will be along in a minute.. Mr. Green

This has made me look forward to learning how to wheelie at some point..

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PostPosted: 23:36 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people are just plain good at this stuff, I live in hope. Laughing

This is the sole reason I would like something like a DRZ or YZ450F... wheelies are relatively easy, you drop it there is a few scratches and maybe a bar end. Laughing
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