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PostPosted: 19:31 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Riding without tax and MOT Reply with quote

I'm moving house so need to ride my CB-1 40 miles or so to my new place. It's been sorned for 4 months and the MOT has run out so I can't tax it (it will be insured though). The plan is to book an MOT near my new house so I can ride up there without tax. This is not just a scam to move the bike, I am actually wanting to put it back on the road so I can sell it Laughing

As I understand it there is no actual provision in the law that states the MOT centre must be the nearest one (although many people seem to believe that).

Anyone know if that is the case?
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it's just the fact that you ARE on your way to a test centre that covers you, no specifics.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is legal to ride a bike to an MOT test centre without tax or MOT but you would need to have the appointment card with you to prove it incase you get pulled over, other than that the lack of a tax and MOT disc would give the game away.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realise it's legal to ride untaxed to a pre-booked MOT...the question does it matter that it's 40 miles away?
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What your suggesting is fine, just have the number of the test centre handy just in case you get pulled. Lets face though the chances of getting pulled over are pretty slim. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I realise it's legal to ride untaxed to a pre-booked MOT...the question does it matter that it's 40 miles away?


What I was trying to imply was no it does not, so long as your on way with proof of booking Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends if you get pulled Laughing

They tend to try and argue that it should be a station close to where you live, although IIRC the law is that it must be taken "straight to the MOT station" - i.e no stopping at mates houses etc...

If it's in roadworthy condition (i.e will pass the MOT), then I think you'd be pretty unlucky to get too much shit - although obviously they can try it anyway...
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I realise it's legal to ride untaxed to a pre-booked MOT...the question does it matter that it's 40 miles away?


No, as long as you have the appointment notice with you its fine, distance is not a problem. I sometimes took my bikes on a ferry to Scotland from N.I to get an MOT due to the long waiting times for an N.I MOT without a tax disc.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the bike is 100% sound, no advisories last time and it's only done a handful of miles since.

I would say I'm fairly likely to get stopped as it'll flag up on the ANPR system presumably. If that happens I'm pretty good at sweet talking officers of the law.

I shall just remind the constable that they should be out catching real crooks then punch him square in the nose and run off shouting "fuck you pig, I ain't going back to the big house" whilst the Police, Camera, Action cameraman chases me down the road.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are moving house......
How are you moving the rest of your stuff..... furnature and that kind of thing?

Van?

Wouldn't it be less hassle all-round to just treat it as a wardrobe and shift it like the rest of your stuff, & worry about MOTing the thing after?
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, just moving everything by car.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

you will get serious ball ache from the police. they are fucking bastards. don't beileve anyone that says there are some nice ones. there are NOT.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Where have you got to move it from to? I may be able to help. I also might be interested in buying it, one more CB-1 can't hurt anyone. If it's the green MKII I've seen around Cambridge, I deffo want to buy it. Exclamation


From Cambridge to Peterborough.

It's a blue one...

https://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/T0mmy200sx/IMG_20120809_182550.jpg

If you do want to buy it you have a few days Laughing Looking for £650 for it but if you buy it and it fails the MOT I'll take money off or sort whatever it fails on as I'm confident it won't so treat it as having 12 months ticket Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Needs to be gone by Wednesday really but my friend lives 100yds down the road so if you want to pick it up from his at a later date I'd be unlucky to get stopped pushing or riding it there. It can then sit on his drive for a week or so until he starts to get pissed off I should think Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

I take it that if it's off to MOT, you've changed the tyres since that pic BTW?


Sorry, missed that bit.

Those are power ones so although they look bald they're actually fairly new Laughing

This is what they look like new...

https://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/attachments/bmw-s1000rr-parts-sale/9533d1344200110-fs-set-pilot-power-ones-imag0069.jpg

You'll see what I mean if you come to view it anyway. They're super sticky but don't seem to wear out too quick as the bike has relatively little poke.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no track days. Just racing Laughing

Only kidding...basically it was my commuter for a year or so then I decided I wanted to get into trackdays so bought the super-duper tyres and good brake pads and did 2 trackdays on it. I realised I enjoyed it more than sex so I went and bought the ZX6R to use as a trackbike.

It is pretty good on track; handles and brakes very well...not enough power or ground clearance for fast group but it was the quickest bike in novices for the 2 I did on it.

Didn't seem to do it any harm but you can have a look and listen and decide for yourself. It runs a hell of a lot sweeter than my ZX6R Laughing

EDIT: Actually if you look at my You Tube channel and scroll right to the beginning there's a video of it at Bedford from before I bought the ZX6.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they're really good fun on decent tyres. I was tempted to chuck a load of money at it putting rear sets on etc. but I just figured it was better to buy something that was built for the job and had enough power to at least stay in touch on the straights.

They're really underrated little bikes; amazing build quality, and just enough power to be fun on the road but without risking your licence. Kind of the perfect road bike for me when it comes to enjoyment but as my commute will now be 40 miles on the motorway instead of 6 miles through heavy traffic the lack of a fairing pretty much makes it unsuitable in winter.

Going to 150 section rear tyre with a lower profile improves the handling and you can get a much wider range of radial tyres instead of being restricted to bias ply BT45s (although they're pretty good). I do actually have a BT45 front for it too with a bit of life left in it which will obviously go with the bike if you buy it.

You can get really cheap race scrubs too as they're the same size as many 125 race bikes. Even if trackdays are not your bag I like having that level of grip on the road and they still last ages as it's not the sort of bike that chews them up at all.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No sweat mate, I'm not that fussed about selling it. It's worth so little and they're so hard to find that I'm always tempted to just keep it forever but then it sits there hardly getting used and I end up thinking it's a waste.

Is there much difference with the MK2s? I thought they were basically the same?
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the clip ons to be honest; it's one of the things that made me want one as I don't like higher bars but not many nakeds come without them.

I don't think I'd want to change the engine as that level of power suits the character of the bike so well and it sounds lovely with the cam gear train whine rather than the cam chain rattle of most inline 4s Cool It also doesn't start to feel slower than the 600 sportsbikes until higher revs as it's got quite a lot of mid range. Perfect city bike in my opinion as it's narrow and nippy but I'm sure G could explain why an S1000RR is a better choice Laughing

This conversation is making me want to keep it again Laughing
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