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mysterious_rider
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: random fire extinguisher question. Reply with quote

Ok this is random, but why are the tanks only classed as '6Litres' When they are like twice the size of a jerry can, and look capable of taking about 12 easily.

Is half of it not used or something?

planning on using one as a tank. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

normally the top half of the cylinder is where theres a charge that expands to pressurise the contents
I remember stripping the ones in our work to have the charges replaced years ago, something like this

https://www.subcomone.com/images/Inside_of_extinguisher.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah damnit. I appreciate the info though! Thumbs Up

If I did choose these as a tank, It won't be easy. I'll have to nip the top off, and run some drill holes around that plating so fuel can go through and make use of all of the space.

Then just reweld it all.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

it can be done, I seen one used as a tank on a biker build
they took an extinguisher and made a petrol tank from it
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude,just get an AFFF extinguisher (9 litre one should be big enough) the bottle itself is pretty much the same inside as out, no funny workings inside Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm Couldnt find any cheap of those afff ones, so got myself some water extinguishers.

It has to be cut and welded anyway, so I'll just buy a long drill piece attachment and just put a load of holes in the plate in the middle.

Will also remove the gas canister. I wonder how its held in there... Welded?

hardest part will be welding it all up afterwards!! Laughing
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panrider_uk
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The charge is just screwed in i think so they can be serviced/recharged every few years

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PostPosted: 23:56 - 08 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you do pics of the completed item? Would be interesting to see!
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 09 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
The charge is just screwed in i think so they can be serviced/recharged every few years

Mark


yes they are, AFAIK they are replaced every 2 years thats why I had to unscrew the tops and remove the charge
a guy from CHUBB came around and swapped them out and topped up the extinguisher component if needed (only ever seen water and CO2 being topped up)

screwed them up and signed the service tag on the bottle Thumbs Up
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mysterious_rider
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 09 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Fantastic. I'll unscrew the top and run various drill holes through that plate. Pretty unfortunate that stupid canister will be taking up space, I will try and remove/puncture however.

Plan of action is cut a hole in the top for a cap, if the tanks are alloy, I shall cut up a pitbike tank, and use the top half with the cap and pop rivet it into the tank with an O ring to seal it. And two universal taps underneath (normal and reserve).

If tank is steel I should imagine I'll get it welded, but I want rat style so pop rivets sounds good. Laughing

I'll be running two of these side by side.

Cheers for the help. (I'll be throwing up a project thread with pics in soon anyway)
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 09 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
normally the top half of the cylinder is where theres a charge that expands to pressurise the contents
I remember stripping the ones in our work to have the charges replaced years ago, something like this

https://www.subcomone.com/images/Inside_of_extinguisher.jpg
My extinguisher looks very similar to that one, but having took it apart, theres no gas cannister in there. Always thought they were charged with compressed air, but i cant find any valve on it Confused
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 09 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadracejoe wrote:
oldpink wrote:
normally the top half of the cylinder is where theres a charge that expands to pressurise the contents
I remember stripping the ones in our work to have the charges replaced years ago, something like this

https://www.subcomone.com/images/Inside_of_extinguisher.jpg
My extinguisher looks very similar to that one, but having took it apart, theres no gas cannister in there. Always thought they were charged with compressed air, but i cant find any valve on it Confused


what type is yours? Water?co2?foam? Or powder?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 09 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its powder
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 10 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadracejoe wrote:
oldpink wrote:
normally the top half of the cylinder is where theres a charge that expands to pressurise the contents
I remember stripping the ones in our work to have the charges replaced years ago, something like this

https://www.subcomone.com/images/Inside_of_extinguisher.jpg
My extinguisher looks very similar to that one, but having took it apart, theres no gas cannister in there. Always thought they were charged with compressed air, but i cant find any valve on it Confused


the AFFF ones we used on ships were simply hollow bottles, with a long pick up screwed in the top. just below the handle there was a 'tyre' valve which we pressurised to 10 bar with a diving cylinder. bloody brilliant when someone had cross threaded the top and went to pressurise it Smile frosty the snowman anyone? Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 12 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're serious about fire, fit one of these to your garage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYAOHYKBYas
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