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 Posted: 17:22 - 08 Nov 2012 Post subject: Learning to filter |
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Hi, I'm a new rider - passed my test about a month ago. I'm now using my bike regularly around town (Bristol), and after a cautious start I'm now starting to think about filtering.
Yesterday evening at rush hour I was here, heading west. The traffic was stationary nose to tail, on a fairly narrow road with a wide bike lane on the left. I decided that the road was too narrow with too much oncoming traffic to pass the queue on the right, so I sat in it for a while, but two or three bikers came past me in the bike lane to my left. After a while I followed them past the traffic, into the bus lane further down and away.
It all worked and felt safe, but the question is is it a) legal, and b) a good idea to use cycle lanes to filter on the left like that?
Thanks very much,
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Expect the Unexpected especially cars changing lanes, swerving in your way and blatantly trying to crush you "as they think its illegal". When you do filter watch the wheels of the vehicles they move first.
You will know when to filter and when not to filter it is like a gut feeling. Listen to that feeling. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Firstly decide how much you will gain in any situation by filtering. Often it is very little. ____________________ 22PlusY
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filter on one wheel shouting juuuuullllllaaaaaayyyyy ____________________ was: derbi senda, aprilia sx125, nsr250 mc16, cagiva mito, cb600 hornet now: mk1 bandit, KR1S, landrover series 3 light weight 2.5 petrol, 5speed box |
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Try briefly to look to see what is happening about 2+ cars ahead,
to see if lights are changing or is a car is looking to pull from a minor to a major ect...
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 Posted: 08:28 - 09 Nov 2012 Post subject: Re: Learning to filter |
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| SteveSmith wrote: | Hi, I'm a new rider - passed my test about a month ago. I'm now using my bike regularly around town (Bristol), and after a cautious start I'm now starting to think about filtering.
Yesterday evening at rush hour I was here, heading west. The traffic was stationary nose to tail, on a fairly narrow road with a wide bike lane on the left. I decided that the road was too narrow with too much oncoming traffic to pass the queue on the right, so I sat in it for a while, but two or three bikers came past me in the bike lane to my left. After a while I followed them past the traffic, into the bus lane further down and away.
It all worked and felt safe, but the question is is it a) legal, and b) a good idea to use cycle lanes to filter on the left like that?
Thanks very much,
Steve. |
Filtering is simple.
Don't do it.
Or if you wish to make progress then do it with extreme caution.
If you get clipped by a twit you will normally be 50-50 as far as Blame goes. It is never simple if there is an incedent whilst filtering.
But it is relatively easy to get through most traffic by following a few tips:
Do not go too much faster than the slow moving traffic. 5-10MPH is useful.
Maintain awareness of surrounding, check mirrors for other bikers and (those Dicks on pedal bikes who like to mix it with traffic but are unable to wait for traffic light sequence) before filtering. SOmeone may have had the idea before you and could be ploughing a path toward the space you are about to fill.
Do not get into-it with the arseholes who move over to block your path. You caould be crushed. There are psychos at large you know.
Wait and when possible go around. It is part of the sport of beating cnuts in cars.
Beware of White vans. They are all driven by loonatiks on licence from HMP/The Department of Correction.
Enjoy making progress though stagnant traffic/being at the front. ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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| cimbian wrote: | Firstly decide how much you will gain in any situation by filtering. Often it is very little. |
Filtering on my commute is the difference between 15 minutes and 40 minutes, that's a bit difference to me.
Generally if it's a solid white line, do nor cross it, if it's dotted it's fair game
I've gotten so used to filtering down the side of this https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Belgrave+Flyover,+Leicester&hl=en&ll=52.643662,-1.12745&spn=0.010559,0.01929&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=10.535375,19.753418&oq=belgrave+flyover+leic&hnear=Belgrave+Flyover,+Leicester+LE1,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.643381,-1.12769&panoid=LwsnvI_6tWAoUkBjCfz_RA&cbp=12,31.1,,0,12.36
That I found myself riding down that bit even when there was hardly any traffic , nice hill too can haul ass coming down
that bus lane on far left should be avoided, dotted lines on the flyover are fair game
And just do it to do it, it's not hard, take your time at first, No no handed filtering down the duel carriageway at 40 like some idiots  ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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| Alpha-9 wrote: |
Generally if it's a solid white line, do nor cross it, if it's dotted it's fair game
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Let's not guess at this eh!
| The Highway Code wrote: | 128
Double white lines where the line nearest to you is broken. This means you may cross the lines to overtake if it is safe, provided you can complete the manoeuvre before reaching a solid white line on your side. White direction arrows on the road indicate that you need to get back onto your side of the road.
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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
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Very specific laws and contravening them, particularly if you then have an incident will leave you in a world of pain, figuratively and actually more than likely.
It's also worth remembering that while it is legal to cross a broken white line followed by the solid white line a lot of motorists don't realise this and *won't be expecting it*. You're the squishy thing on the back of not much metal compared to the non-squishy large lump of metal that the shocked car driver is in control of!
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Don't underestimate how thick or deliberately aggressive p1ssed-off cagers in traffic can be. It's everyone's fault but theirs that they're trapped in a big, expensive metal box and are late home because of all the other big, expensive metal boxes There will be occasions when your p1ss is boiling, don't let it cloud your judgement with your ongoing riding.
Always say thanks to nice, observant people.
Although it is good to push yourself a little to develop your riding, don't feel compelled to. Some days you'll feel like the goddess (or god) of 'assertive' filtering other days you'll be more inclined to pootle through it all and challenge yourself less. There's no gun in your back, make sensible decisions you're happy with and don't take daft risks. ____________________ smile and be happy. . . .it gets right on everyone's tits! |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 71 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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