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sidewinder
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: New medium cc bikes which one ? Reply with quote
https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/c99608789ffdc78f797f85ce39086e91.jpg

The r4 and the ninja look really good.the Honda is a bit Sick still waiting for the Suzuki offering but if I had the choice the r4 is for me .the twin front discs were the decider although the kwak does look good Cool

What would you have?
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY.

More poser shit Rolling Eyes

I would rather have this, far more satisfying.

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PostPosted: 13:12 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sporty commuters I beleive Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
sidewinder wrote:
Sporty commuters I beleive Very Happy


Sporty looking, commuter performance.

They may sell well, but you grab a "CBR250" at top dollar, you can get an older commuter for less than half the price, no direct depreciation and it goes faster Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
What's that? Another overpriced, underpowered bike, assembled in India, for people with more money than discerning good sense?

I was particularly amused by this gem, found while researching the R4: "The bike is powered by a 250 cc 4-stroke liquid cooled single cylinder engine with fuel injection.The engine has 4 valves controlled my an advanced DOHC camshaft. Cross-plane crankshaft seen in Yamaha R1 might make its way into this bike."

Personally, I'd love to see how in the hell the reviewermongoloid expects to see this implemented, but since I'm not the proud owner of a srs journalistic wordpress page, I clearly know nothing Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laughing

The bike is meant more for track use rather than street commuting.

Laughing

Probably easy to keep up with on an RS125 which is about 1k Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
If they were 2 strokes though Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: New medium cc bikes which one ? Reply with quote
sidewinder wrote:
https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/c99608789ffdc78f797f85ce39086e91.jpg

The r4 and the ninja look really good.the Honda is a bit Sick still waiting for the Suzuki offering but if I had the choice the r4 is for me .the twin front discs were the decider although the kwak does look good Cool

What would you have?


I like the look of that Yamaha?..... any more details about these bikes?.
Are they all going to be sooooo small that only midgets can ride them?
Single cylinder? twins? ILF`s what are they?.

Could we be at the begining of a re-jouvination of the smaller cc classes?... I hope so.
I find it so depressing that we (in the UK) are mainly focused on 125--->600-->750---> 1000+ bikes.
Yes I know there are other bikes available in the UK, but there are not that many when you think about what is available in other countries.

Surely the more types of bikes out there will mean there is a chance that there is something to appeal to more potential/new bikers.
I would rather see a few of these out there than the people who would of rode them in a car because they could`nt find a bike that suited them.
So what if the bikes mentioned cant do 80 gazillion miles an hour or accelerate to 60 in a tenth of a micro-second, they look fine.

Commuters dressed in rocketship clothes, yer sure they are.
We all need a commuter bike sometime in our biking life.
I`ll bet you`ve all had a commuter bike at some point?
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jason Kendrick Howell wrote:
I agree with Paddy, depositing a full weight of shit is going to be more fulfilling than riding any of these "bikes".


I took a dump earlier, it tore me and I literally bled a little. I still enjoyed that more than I would enjoy these restricted bags of shite.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That's the 250 I want 19,000 redline? Drooling Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Queue the inane "you dont want a sporty 250cc get an age old gixxer/1000cbr etc etc" brigade.

The Yamaha 250 looks nice...didn't realise they did a 250 in the YZF..nice..but id still go for the ninja300 given the choice of those 3..
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
sidewinder wrote:
Sporty commuters I beleive Very Happy


Sporty looking, commuter performance.

They may sell well, but you grab a "CBR250" at top dollar, you can get an older commuter for less than half the price, no direct depreciation and it goes faster Laughing


but it won't look as good
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
thepuma wrote:
Queue the inane "you dont want a sporty 250cc get an age old gixxer/1000cbr etc etc" brigade.

No one's saying that - infact, you may have missed that these 'inane' people often say "if you want a sporty 250, get a sporty 250".
These bikes are not 'sporty'. They have fancy fairings matched to engines slower than a twenty year old 125.

The kawasaki being listed as 33hp did seem to make sense. The choice of a single with just over 20hp for the others suggests their market is purely aimed at fashion-victim kids with too much money.



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PostPosted: 14:07 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jason Kendrick Howell wrote:
I agree with Paddy, depositing a full weight of shit is going to be more fulfilling than riding any of these "bikes".


From you i sense much crap... these motorcycle are not targeted at you... they are targeted on entire different group who may likely have only riden 125cc nothing bigger... you guys may not want to go down the power range but there is not need to hate on a machine you will never buy since it can't satisfy your need of 'speed'...
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jason Kendrick Howell wrote:
To be blunt if this was the sort of shit young people had to ride when I got into biking then I probably wouldn't of bothered passing my test. Owning one of these sheds is as dull as car ownership, only without the climate control and practicality. Just another result of the dull, sanitised world we live in I'm afraid.


Laughing Laughing Laughing nob..
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is a 250 sports.

https://www.racingsm.org/bikes/rs250/gallery/4rs250.jpg

That is a fucking beast.

The ones in the original are probably "big" singles or by the looks of the Yamaha, parallel twin. 250cc tiny twin or single will not set the world on fire, nor will it be a good stepping stone to a bigger bike.

I doubt many riders can ride to the limits of their own 125's. Why go 1/4 step up and get another wheezy bag of guff? Stepping to a 400 sports or a commuter 400 would seem a better bet.

Your argument about them not looking as good is irrelevant. My GSXR was a state, my ZX6r isn't too great either, but I would take those over those jazzed up commuters any day. 2 or 3 gears would lose them on the motorway...and there is no chance you'd keep up with one in town Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: New medium cc bikes which one ? Reply with quote
pepperami wrote:
sidewinder wrote:
[img]https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/c99608789ffdc78f797f85ce39086e91.


I like the look of that Yamaha?..... any more details about these bikes?.



2012 Yamaha YZF 250 R4 Specification:
ENGINE
Engine capacity – 249 cc, SOHC, single cylinder, Asia Fuel injection Power – 21 hp
Bore x Stroke 67.0 x 42.5mm
Compression Ratio 13.1:1
Fuel Delivery Fuel Injection with YCC-T and YCC-I
Ignition TCI: Transistor Controlled Ignition
Transmission 6-speed w/multiplate slipper clutch
Final Drive O-ring chain
CHASSIS
Suspension / Front 41mm inverted fork; 4-way adjustable, 4.5-in travel
Suspension / Rear Single shock; 4-way adjustable, 4.7-in travel
Brakes / Front Dual 310mm floating disc; radial-mount 4-piston calipers
Brakes / Rear 220mm disc; single-piston caliper
Tires / Front 120/70-ZR17
Tires / Rear 180/55-ZR17
DIMENSIONS
Length 80.3 in
Width 27.8 in
Height 43.1 in
Seat Height 33.5 in
Wheelbase 54.1 in
Rake (Caster Angle) 24°
Trail 3.8 in
Oil Capacity (with oil filter change) 2.75 qt
Fuel Capacity 4.5 gal
Fuel Economy** 40 mpg


Kawasaki ninja 300


Engine
Four-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, parallel twin
Displacement
296cc
Bore x Stroke
62.0 x 49.0mm
Compression ratio
10.6:1
Cooling System
Liquid
Fuel Injection
DFI® with dual 32mm throttle bodies
Ignition
TCBI with digital advance
Transmission
Six-speed
Final drive
Chain
Frame Type
Semi-double cradle, high-tensile steel
Wheelbase
55.3 in.
Rake / trail
27 degrees / 3.7 in.
Front suspension / wheel travel
37mm hydraulic telescopic fork / 4.7 in.
Rear suspension / wheel travel
Uni-Trak® with 5-way adjustable preload / 5.2 in.
Front tire
110/70-17
Rear tire
140/70-17
Front brakes
Single 290mm petal-type disc with two-piston hydraulic caliper
Rear brakes
Single 220mm petal-type disc with two-piston hydraulic caliper
Overall length
79.3 in.
Overall width
28.1 in.
Overall height
43.7 in.
Seat height
30.9 in.
Curb weight
379.3 lbs.
Fuel capacity
4.5 gal.
Color(s)
Pearl Stardust White, Lime Green/Ebony, Ebony
Warranty
12 months


Cbr250 specs
ENGINE
Engine Type 249.4cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder four-stroke
Bore And Stroke 76mm x 55mm
Induction PGM-Fi, 38mm throttle body
Ignition Computer-controlled digital transistorized with electronic advance
Compression Ratio 10.7:1
Valve Train DOHC; four valves per cylinder
DRIVE TRAIN
Transmission Six-speed
CHASSIS / SUSPENSION / BRAKES
Front Suspension 37mm fork; 4.65 inches travel
Rear Suspension Pro-Link single shock with five positions of spring preload adjustability; 4.07 inches travel
Front Brake Single 296mm disc
Rear Brake Single 220mm disc
Front Tire 110/70-17 radial
Rear Tire 140/70-17 radial
DIMENSIONS
Rake 25.0 degrees
Trail 98.6mm (3.9 inches)
Wheelbase 53.9 inches
Seat Height 30.5 inches
Curb Weight 357 pounds. Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel-ready to ride.
Fuel Capacity 3.4 gallons
Miles Per Gallon 77 MPG - Honda's fuel economy estimates are based on EPA exhaust emission measurement test procedures and are intended for comparison purposes only. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you ride, how you maintain your vehicle, weather, road conditions, tire pressure, installation of accessories, cargo, rider and passenger weight, and other factors.
OTHER
Model Id CBR250R
Emissions Meets current EPA standards. Models sold in California meet current CARB standards and may differ slightly due to emissions equipment.
Available Colors Black, Red, Pearl White/Blue/Red, Blue/Orange/White/Red
Note Specifications subject to change without notice.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
how thick or immature do you have to be to take a picture of a toilet full of crap. No need to answer I already know how thick and immature you have to be
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: New medium cc bikes which one ? Reply with quote
sidewinder wrote:
2012 Yamaha YZF 250 R4 Specification:
ENGINE
Type 599cc liquid-cooled inline 4-cylinder; DOHC, 16 titanium valves


Laughing That is an R6 Wink

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sidewinder wrote:
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2012 Yamaha YZF 250 R4 Specification:
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Type 599cc liquid-cooled inline 4-cylinder; DOHC, 16 titanium valves
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599cc??? Shocked Am I missing something
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is the yamaha r4 even available in the uk?
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