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shereen
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Engine cosmetics. Reply with quote

Has anyone sent their engine off to one of those companies who send it back looking all pretty and polished? If so how much is this likely to cost and can anyone recommend a company?

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PostPosted: 15:48 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it not be worth doing yourself, a drill, metal polish, polishing discs, and some elbow grease, personal opinion I wouldn't do it if your a all year round biker, but you may have a few bikes, or want one for shows, who knows, I would still do it myself more satisfaction.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ja7 wrote:
Would it not be worth doing yourself, a drill, metal polish, polishing discs, and some elbow grease, personal opinion I wouldn't do it if your a all year round biker, but you may have a few bikes, or want one for shows, who knows, I would still do it myself more satisfaction.


To be honest, I havnt the patience for that sort of thing and its not on a commuter/ all year round type of bike so I would want it to look nice.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The blocks are aluminium so once you start polishing you have to keep doing it as it will oxidize just sitting in air.
There may be some protection using a clear laquer but the hot part will discolour whether or not they are painted with clear.
Why not buy a Harley Dae-Anything chopper, grow a beard (or minimum Pancho Tash) and have a big fat belly.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Why not buy a Harley Dae-Anything chopper, grow a beard (or minimum Pancho Tash) and have a big fat belly.
I have the latter 2 already.

Would powder coating be the better option then?
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ACF-50 I applied a few hours ago has made my engine all lovely and shiny. Wink

Getting it professionally cleaned at this time of year? Confused
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah. I'm afraid it would fall apart if I did. It's being held together by dirt right now Laughing
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shereen
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
The ACF-50 I applied a few hours ago has made my engine all lovely and shiny. Wink

Getting it professionally cleaned at this time of year? Confused


The bike isnt due to to be one the road for a few months so im hoping the sun might shine a bit by then! Cool
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

powder coating needs to be baked on, spray the powder on then put it in an oven hung up. not sure if this bit is right but pretty sure the powder is attracted to the job through static.

polishing, wouldn't bother with an engine, castings are to rough on the crank cases and barrels, so would need sanding then alot of wet and dry sanding.

best bet is a good quality high temp paint.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

To powder coat it, it would probably need to be dismantled - it gets baked to cure. Polishing would be hard work.


Engines can be painted, Pj1 engine paint is commonly used.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
Benno wrote:
The ACF-50 I applied a few hours ago has made my engine all lovely and shiny. Wink

Getting it professionally cleaned at this time of year? Confused


The bike isnt due to to be one the road for a few months so im hoping the sun might shine a bit by then! Cool


Awesome. The sun needs to come out already, I hate this weather.

Still, you can make a bike shiny and clean on a budget. I just bought some generic bike cleaner from halfords (works for everything, engine/fairings/anything else), sprayed it all over the place and hosed everything down, bike was sparkly clean afterwards except for one or two tiny (seriously I only notice them because I spent ages poring over every millimetre of the bike) stubborn flecks of dirt.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benno wrote:


Still, you can make a bike shiny and clean on a budget. I just bought some generic bike cleaner from halfords (works for everything, engine/fairings/anything else), sprayed it all over the place and hosed everything down, bike was sparkly clean afterwards except for one or two tiny (seriously I only notice them because I spent ages poring over every millimetre of the bike) stubborn flecks of dirt.


But I need this:

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/KGrHqJg4FC4b3S-SBQ9DiDc60_12.jpg

to look more like:

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/KGrHqNlUFBgGg-ncyBQnTpyS7g60_12.jpg

or this:

https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/Clearancelines/T2eC16hyEE9s5jHPgBQv3csZroQ60_12.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloke in one of the mags did this. He sent his engine off to be shotblasted and polished in one piece.

He got it back all shiney and that, but when he fired it up it lunched itself because the shot/sand/media from the blasting got inside the engine, even though it was masked.

The ONLY way to get an engine to look all shiney is to strip it down and rebuild it.

Steam cleaning might work a bit, but it's never going to be perfect.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shereen,

Can I just ask... Why would you commit to a project like this if you didn't want to do the work yourself?

Paying someone to do the work to build a special out of a VFR750 engine and a VFR400 frame is like hiring Gordon Ramsey to heat up a tin of tomato soup.

If you don't do the work yourself, you might as well spend the money on a bike that is already built, such as... Oh... A VFR750 perhaps?
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
The bike isnt due to to be one the road for a few months so im hoping the sun might shine a bit by then! Cool
Oh dear; I can tell you from experience that setting yourself target dates never ends well.

You'll have to strip the engine if you want it blasted and painted, or you can get in there with either wire wool, or a drill with a wire brush and strip the coating manually in situ. Either way, painting it when fully assembled isn't ideal, and won't look particularly good, thanks to the variable accessibility of some bits, and the fact that the bolts are still present causing the paint to flake the first time you try to undo any of them. Future removal of gaskets may well have the same effect, as will removing any covers. You really do want the whole thing to be in pieces if you're intent on painting it.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strip engine. Get every casing vapour blasted then get them enameled
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 24 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:


Hah! OK I'll capitulate. Get it done Laughing

Mine is only superficially clean anyway.
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