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Mark 37
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Cyclone V2 killing 125 battery in 20 hours Reply with quote

Pretty much as above. I fitted the alarm yesterday. Just the basic set up into indicators and battery.

The wife went out the back and heard a buzzing noise. I switched the alarm off then on again and notice the indicators weren't flashing.

I switched the alarm off and tried the indicators which worked. I then tried to fire the bike up, nothing. I've taken the battery out and put it on charge (just in time).

All the other wires (not in use) I heat shrunk all of them to insulate, then folded them neatly and cable tied them into an area of the bike surrounded by rubber, so wouldn't expect that to be the issue.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks,

Mark

EDIT, forgot to say its a Honda cbf125 with a 12V 6amp battery.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All alarms will have a draw along with them. If you fitted the LED too, that's another (albeit minor) draw.

If your battery was low in the first place, it's entirely possible that the alarm drained the battery.

You do have to be careful if you leave a bike sitting for a couple of days with an alarm attached! 20 hours does sound way too quick, but as I say, if the battery was low in the first place this would happen.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not think the battery would be low. Las run was Thursday night 100 miles or so.

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
I did not think the battery would be low. Las run was Thursday night 100 miles or so.

Mark


Battery might just not be holding a charge.
Get a Motobatt and see if the problem persists, i bet it wont
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

get yourself an optimate trickle charger.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclone wired with just the + and - will not discharge a battery for week over 2-3weeks, even then, that is a weak battery.

Wired just those wires in as its all that's needed, no issues even when leaving bike for well over a week in winter.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Cyclone has been wired into my 250 for a good few months now with no ill effects. All be it I didn't bother with the indicators, just the basic motion sensor set up

I ride 5 or 6 days a week and it hasn't affected my battery

Do you know your battery history? Have you had it from new?
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
get yourself an optimate trickle charger.


I have one but can't leave it on as the bikes outside.

Cheers,

Mark
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
I did not think the battery would be low. Las run was Thursday night 100 miles or so.

Mark


On the other hand, if your charging system isn't up to spec, a long run would rather discharge the battery.

I've had a bike cut out on me due to a flat battery after 140 odd miles on the motorway before, although the battery was low before leaving.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
Sako wrote:
get yourself an optimate trickle charger.


I have one but can't leave it on as the bikes outside.

Cheers,

Mark


get yourself a garage.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery is from new, 2 years old.

Up until now I've had no battery issues. Over winter I took it out charged it and it held its charge for 3-4 weeks, only dropping 10-20% of its charge.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: 22:00 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a multimeter to see if the alarm is drawing current, and that the bike is charging properly. If the battery is more than two years old id suspect it.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberkron wrote:
Use a multimeter to see if the alarm is drawing current, and that the bike is charging properly. If the battery is more than two years old id suspect it.


This. Check the current draw of the alarm with a DMM in series with the + or - supply. If it's more than a few milliamps then there could be an issue with it - the rated current is on their website somewhere.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most thatcham approved ones drop down to 15ma standby/armed. Leaving it disarmed may flatten your battery as draw will be somewhere near 250ma.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 21 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most thatcham approved ones drop down to 15ma standby/armed. Leaving it disarmed may flatten your battery as draw will be somewhere near 250ma.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems the battery was very low. After charging it I've had no issues with the battery draining.

It appears the buzzing noise came from the horn because I now have no working horn since the alarm was fitted (found out when I needed my horn for an idiot cutting me up).

Can anyone tell me what's happened to the horn and if its fixable?

Thanks,
Mark
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a buzzing coming from your horn it means you have some sort of electrical feed to it. If it's not 'beeping' horn noises but just a low buzz you have a low voltage feeding it.

Pretty obviously if it started when you wired in the Cyclone, you have fucked up somewhere.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
Battery is from new, 2 years old.

Up until now I've had no battery issues. Over winter I took it out charged it and it held its charge for 3-4 weeks, only dropping 10-20% of its charge.

Cheers,

Mark


2 years old is pretty old for a bike battery, they don't last particularly long some of them
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
If you have a buzzing coming from your horn it means you have some sort of electrical feed to it. If it's not 'beeping' horn noises but just a low buzz you have a low voltage feeding it.

Pretty obviously if it started when you wired in the Cyclone, you have fucked up somewhere.


It didn't start straight away. It was about 6 hours after fitting. Not from when i connected the battery.

I only connected the four wires as instructed by the hand written notes. Two to positive feeds of indicators which were staggered and fully insulated with heat shrink then electrical tape, then the red and black to the battery. Smile

If we ever get some dry weather when the kids are out the way ill put the meter on the tabs that connect to the horn to see if the switch is working. Then I'll desolder the indicator connections.

The horn is on the same positive feed as the indicators. Is their a particular place to make the connections???? I.E before or after the fuse box. I done it at its easiest point.

Unless anyone has any other ideas.

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PostPosted: 22:36 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally off subject, but i'm ordering this alarm system for my CBF125 (this friday i'm ordering it) and was wondering where you fitted the black alarm box thingy?

Thanks in advance, Az Smile
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a PM.

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PostPosted: 23:34 - 15 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
You have a PM.

Mark


u also have a PM lol Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 16 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a clifford car alarm wired to my old scooter a 2008 speedfight 100cc, was wired to LnR indicator and hight beem, the old bonet pin used for the under seat, proximity sensor with chip mode anyone within 10ft and it chip twice evey 10 sec but stay there 30 sec and Mad battery lasted 7 days stanby

i think its ur battery or somthing else is draining it
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