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The Shaggy D.A.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

Stumbled across this test via the F2 Motorcycles site, shows how good ACF50 is. Definitely going to swap the WD40 for it this winter.

https://f2mcltd.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/winter-salt-protection-acf50-fs365-or.html
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Re: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Stumbled across this test via the F2 Motorcycles site, shows how good ACF50 is. Definitely going to swap the WD40 for it this winter.

https://f2mcltd.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/winter-salt-protection-acf50-fs365-or.html

I wouldn't. Many have coated their bikes in the stuff and had a hard time removing it in the Spring only to find corrosion where it wears thin. Hose down with cold water after a 'salty' ride and apply a fresh coating of WD or cheapo spray. Regular winter treatment like this will keep you steed in good shape IMO.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use GT-85.
It comes off easily with soapy water or wet-wipes, then reapply. Also it doesn't stink like WD-40 when the engine gets hot. So a win really. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear by ACF, it's fantastic stuff, my 2004 GSXR 750 has been getting it applied every time it's laid up. Not a single bit of corrosion anywhere on the bike...still looks showroom fresh.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
I swear by ACF, it's fantastic stuff, my 2004 GSXR 750 has been getting it applied every time it's laid up. Not a single bit of corrosion anywhere on the bike...still looks showroom fresh.


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ACF50 is fantastic stuff.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice test, it confirms the way I use them is right, i.e. FS365 only when the bike is garaged over the winter as it's an emulsion and water washes it off easily; ACF50 for a bike that's being used as it's a tougher coat.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I has a tin of ACF for the new bike. Will get a coating when I clean it. Yes shock horror Pinky is going to actually clean his bike!
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warm the can a bit in warm water then spray some into the lid, apply with a 1" brush and a smaller brush if needed for more intricate areas. Best way to apply ACF. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:19 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put off using ACF for years thinking it couldnt possibly be worth the £15 per tin price so stuck with just WD40 on the 125.

Got a tin of ACF for xmas and use it on the 600, bike looked amazing after a wash when winter abated. Bloody hate the smell of it though after covering the bike in it then starting it up.
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PostPosted: 06:42 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

*doesn't want to think about these products at this time of year*
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
Warm the can a bit in warm water then spray some into the lid, apply with a 1" brush and a smaller brush if needed for more intricate areas. Best way to apply ACF. Thumbs Up


As above, just use a degreasent to remove completely, best £15 spent.
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£550 Chinese bike-in-a-box + liberal application of ACF-50 out of the crate and each Winter + 3 years of all weather use with the occasional bucket of water thrown over it =
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kuy3l8b8Lo8/T4BgMxdZlPI/AAAAAAAAAMo/qattQ4l9sFU/s1600/1.jpeg

I'm a believer. In fact, I've bought a litre bottle of the stuff. It's expensive, but far better value for money than the spray cans, and will last multiple bikes for years.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Re: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

biker7 wrote:

I wouldn't. Many have coated their bikes in the stuff and had a hard time removing it in the Spring only to find corrosion where it wears thin. Hose down with cold water after a 'salty' ride and apply a fresh coating of WD or cheapo spray. Regular winter treatment like this will keep you steed in good shape IMO.

And if I had done that after every time I took the bike out on said salty winter roads, might as well have taken the car, I'd have saved time overall!

I'm a believer.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 30 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 to ACF50.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 31 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been treating my WR125X with ACF50 since i bought it in March 2012. Not a spot of rust on it, absolutely as good as new. When I get my XJ6 the first thing im going to do is treat it with ACF50. I dont spray it on though, I paint it on with a small paintbrush then maybe wipe around the area with some cloth.
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 01 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Stumbled across this test via the F2 Motorcycles site, shows how good ACF50 is. Definitely going to swap the WD40 for it this winter.

https://f2mcltd.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/winter-salt-protection-acf50-fs365-or.html


They are three completel different breads.

WD40 is primaraly a water dispersant. Very limited permanent protection.
365 is a sodium neutralizer to help deal with road salt corrosion. Better longterm protection.
ACF50 is a corrosion barrier that has an extremely tenacious bonding action.

All of them will wash off after a while. ACF when applied as directed forms an invisible shield on everything.

It is so good at it's job that I use it on the Chain Saw, Petrol Hedge Trimmer and the Lawnmower, the cars, the bikes and the iron gates.

I don't think it is expensive. It is more expensive then 365 and wd40 but they don't offer anything like the same perfect protection.

The centre stand and rear shock on my K1300 seemed to be disolving before my eyes. I pressure washed the bastirt and then drowned in ACF50. The treatment halted the progress of the rusting. I give it a wee skoot every couple of washes now.
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PostPosted: 03:57 - 01 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

They are three completel different breads.

WD40 is primaraly a water dispersant. Very limited permanent protection.
365 is a sodium neutralizer to help deal with road salt corrosion. Better longterm protection.
ACF50 is a corrosion barrier that has an extremely tenacious bonding action.


Interesting - where's GT85 in all that? More of a lubricant than all three, and about as permanent as WD40? Also - and this has been mentioned before - are any of these more or less kind to plastics and rubbery (hoses, carb rubbers, etc.) components?

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The centre stand and rear shock on my K1300 ...
OT alert here - I was talking to a geezer from Hull on an orange k1300 yesterday. I watch him race it down here at York Raceway. Man that thing goes like stink. He seems to trounce the TL1000s he goes against. Needs to take on the two 'busas that turn up. Or...you! Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:48 - 01 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: ACF50 v WD40 v FS365 Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Walloper wrote:

They are three completel different breads.

WD40 is primaraly a water dispersant. Very limited permanent protection.
365 is a sodium neutralizer to help deal with road salt corrosion. Better longterm protection.
ACF50 is a corrosion barrier that has an extremely tenacious bonding action.


Interesting - where's GT85 in all that? More of a lubricant than all three, and about as permanent as WD40? Also - and this has been mentioned before - are any of these more or less kind to plastics and rubbery (hoses, carb rubbers, etc.) components?

Walloper wrote:
The centre stand and rear shock on my K1300 ...
OT alert here - I was talking to a geezer from Hull on an orange k1300 yesterday. I watch him race it down here at York Raceway. Man that thing goes like stink. He seems to trounce the TL1000s he goes against. Needs to take on the two 'busas that turn up. Or...you! Laughing


I have the K1300GT (for towing the caravan) but I'd still trounce any cnut. Cool
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PostPosted: 06:06 - 07 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think acf-50 is pretty cheap, I guess it depends on what your comparing it to. you could compare it to the value of your bike as that's what it's protecting. if your bike is worth a few grand then paying £15 a year to protect it is pretty cheap. or you could compare it to other things, £15 of fuel, how often do you spend on that? 5 pints of beer? a cheap shirt? to me acf-50 is really cheap, I don't get why people think it's expensive

I have a Chinese bike that will rust to nothing in days if I don't use acf-50 after every wash. it's 3 years old with no rust whatsoever..... well except for the downpipe as it gets hot and burns the acf-50 off
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 07 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetski wrote:

I have a Chinese bike that will rust to nothing in days if I don't use acf-50 after every wash.


I thought ACF-50 was a one off treatment. Confused I think if you apply anything after every wash your bike will ok. But that's it really - give your bike a quick wash after salt exposure and a spray all over with any old spray. 10 minutes - job done. Bikers have been protecting their bikes this way for years and years. The ACF-50 miracle treatment is a recent phenomenon. Do whatever works for you I say.
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PostPosted: 03:56 - 09 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

biker7 wrote:
jetski wrote:

I have a Chinese bike that will rust to nothing in days if I don't use acf-50 after every wash.


I thought ACF-50 was a one off treatment. Confused I think if you apply anything after every wash your bike will ok. But that's it really - give your bike a quick wash after salt exposure and a spray all over with any old spray. 10 minutes - job done. Bikers have been protecting their bikes this way for years and years. The ACF-50 miracle treatment is a recent phenomenon. Do whatever works for you I say.


I have no idea what your on about but if you wash off the acf-50 it won't be on there anymore. so you have to re apply. a coating of acf-50 makes it so easy to clean. grime practically just rinses off
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PostPosted: 05:54 - 09 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the best place to get acf50 from?
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PostPosted: 06:19 - 09 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any motor factors should do it, halfords, Wilcos etc. Millions of online retailers too.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 09 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rigga wrote:
Where is the best place to get acf50 from?


Ebay is your friend
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 09 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get mine from eBay £15 delivered, bargain
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