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PostPosted: 21:02 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was being a cunt. As long as it has MOT you can have seals that leak worse than the Iraqi Navy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copper's full of shit, just say they were fine on your pre-ride check. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_mjs_ wrote:
He was being a cunt. As long as it has MOT you can have seals that leak worse than the Iraqi Navy Thumbs Up



^ this.
Mot is current, leaky seals isn't an offence afaik. Bald tyres, now that is a different story.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_mjs_ wrote:
He was being a cunt. As long as it has MOT you can have seals that leak worse than the Iraqi Navy Thumbs Up


MOT only proves that that the bike was at an acceptable MOT standard at exactly the time of testing, it's not proof of roadworthyness after that.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The could probably do you as part of the Road Traffic Act if they really wanted to, however if you can prove that the vehicle was in a roadworthy condition when you did your pre-ride check (which you always do Wink ) then I think it would be nigh on impossible to make it stick.

Obviously stuff like tyres it won't be a defence for, but blown bulbs, fork seals, number plate getting smashed to pieces, that would be a reasonable defence IMO.

ANy legal bods feel free to make me look stupid, but that's how I'd interpret it.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
He said the front tyre was quite worn (which it's), although its legal. Still he seemed more concerned about the forks, saying about it dripping onto the front brake. I didn't tell him that literally a few minutes earlier I had to do an emergency stop when a kid walked out infront of me Shocked


Are your fork seals actually leaking?
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he was concerned about the fluids leaking on to the pads, the correct response was to admit that you'r leaking fluids, but this will enable your bike to be lighter, thus increasing braking power.

Out of curiosity, are they USD forks?
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just fit a set of oil retainers to each fork (also known as MOT-passing skirts) and you'll be good to go.

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PostPosted: 22:40 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was he a short angry slaphead with a stupid 'tash and a stoop shoulder from the massive chip on it, by any chance? Because that would be a complete first... Rolling Eyes

He can't "declare" anything, he can make an accusation and let a court decide. Unless you're daft enough to admit to it and just hand your license over and pay a bribe to avoid a day in court.

For future reference: Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 67 (6): "I elect to defer this test, now either detain me or I'm riding off."

The law is available for you to read. He won't have, but that doesn't mean that you can't.

tl;dr - he was just being a dick, you'll get used to it.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although s67(8) is pretty much all the get-out a constable needs to do the examination there and then. It's simply 'in the opinion' rather than requiring any reasonable grounds to suspect or believe, which means you're waiting there till they can get traffic plod down.
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PostPosted: 05:10 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Pulled over by plod Reply with quote

MC wrote:
So coming home today there was a police check point. I was following a few cars (I was about to overtake), & thought oh $hit they're going to pull me aren't they... sure enough they did. The copper starts looking over my bike, & says the fork seals are leaking, and that he could declare my bike unsafe (or something) which would result in having to obtain a new mot & points on my license. Instead he gave me a talking to.

Tbh I've never heard of people being given points for this offence(?). I'm a bit nervous of being pulled again, although obviously I'm going to take a different way home tomorrow Smile


CU40 using a vehicle with defective steering. Couldn't tell you the definition but I imagine it would be up to the Plod to prove it as opposed to you disproving it. Good luck getting insurance with that for an endorsemen.

As mentioned previously the MOT is valid only at the time it is issued. Say for instance you leave the testing station and immediately ride into the side of a van (stupid I know but please bear with me). Your headlight is smashed, wheel out of alignment and your fork seals really are leaking now, is the vehicle really fit for another 364 days of use?
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, let's see these forks then...
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


For future reference: Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 67 (6): "I elect to defer this test, now either detain me or I'm riding off.".



Isn't that where club + head interface and resisting arrest/breach of the peace + taser and that dodgy law which allows them to put flag your vehicle up for future harassment + other associated made up on the spot laws are applied?
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The law is available for you to read.

I'm waiting for it in paperback.

Seriously though, got a link?
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
I'm waiting for it in paperback.

Seriously though, got a link?


Literally the first result
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

timbstoke wrote:
LordShaftesbury wrote:
I'm waiting for it in paperback.
Seriously though, got a link?

Literally the first result

Heh, the first result for me is the Road Traffic Offenders Act which lists the penalty for obstructing a roadside test.

To be honest, I wouldn't actually recommend trying a deferment unless you (or better yet, a chumrade) are able to record the interaction and you're up for seeing it through all the way to court.

Your "right" to defer is writ down offishul like here. Note the exceptions to that right: an accident, or "Where in the opinion of a constable the vehicle is apparently so defective that it ought not to be allowed to proceed without a test being carried out".

That's very vague, but obviously pissing fork seals would likely trigger it.

Let's see 'em then. I'll bet a finger visor wiper that they're misted, not pissing. Any takers? Wink
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was searching for the wrong thing, 'mila kunis naked' was getting me nowhere.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
I was searching for the wrong thing, 'mila kunis naked' was getting me nowhere.


Weird, it gets me all the way there.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Yamaha 125 YBR has had a leaking front right fork for 2 years, so much so that it is stripping off the chrome. Both years I've had a MOT on it they have just given me an advisory, it leaks quite a lot as well I have to wipe it every damn time I get off.

Should really get it fixed, however I don't have enough money to fork out for it!
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enaver wrote:
Should really get it fixed, however I don't have enough money to fork out for it!


£20? Laughing

Mine have been leaking for ~4 months now, probably longer.

It is getting done on saturday though Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is covered in oil. Clean it off and see how long it takes to come back.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Let's see 'em then. I'll bet a finger visor wiper that they're misted, not pissing. Any takers? Wink

There were no takers. NO TAKERS! Hand
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