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maximerto
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: High Mileage? Reply with quote

Hi people, basically i may potentially be looking at a Hornet and am really stuck with what would constitute high mileage on a bike like this and would like to know what everybody else's thoughts are. The bike in question has 39,000 on the clock and is a '99 model.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same engine as the old CBR600F and carbed CBF600. I've seen a number of those with well over 100,000 miles. As Iain said, if it's cheap enough, rides nicely and doesn't make any odd noises then go for it!
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondas will generally do silly mileage.

My hornet is currently at 80,000 Laughing still seems to be running fine and just been mot'd again
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

At higher mileage I wouldn't worry about the engine, its the other stuff that might be starting to get tired.

The rear shock on my CBR600 wasn't at its best by 40,000 miles - the engine was absolutely fine. I'd already been round and replaced all the brake lines, changed the downpipes... wear and tear kinda stuff. So you need to take the bike on condition rather than mileage.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much isit? I'm waiting for my 99 hornet to get here and that's on 22k
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies boys and girls and thats exactly what i was hoping to hear. Smile i know it seemed like a silly question, but the only bike ive had is my 07 CBR 125 which has only done about 8k, so im sure you can understand why im asking. Lol from what you guys have said i think i'll definitely be at least taking a look at it and keeping an eye out for the obvious bits and pieces as it is going for a good price imo and looks fairly tidy from the pics as well. Smile .....and in reply to you Troy, its going for about £1300.....but obviously i'll see if i can get a bit knocked off that as well depending. Lol
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aim for £1100.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, Hornets are pretty reliable bikes with bulletproof engines (as long as they're maintained, or course Wink ). If you do buy it then get yourself on the Hornet's Nest forum - some very knowledgeable people on there plus it's a good source of bits and pieces. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've said in a previous thread, mileage isn't a great indication of condition or quality of a second hand bike, the bike may have 40k gentle dry weather only miles, another may have 6k miles where it's been thrashed senseless and left outside without a cover etc...

A visual look (detailed), then a check for play in bearings etc is required, also a good listen to the bike running and a test ride is the minimum I would do before committing to a purchase.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2003 Hornet is on 34,000 miles and all okay.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
My 2003 Hornet is on 34,000 miles and all okay.


And still up for sale?

Buy Doovy's one.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont get the whole stigma with mileage. Imo mileage means nothing, but then i dont give a lot of weight to service history either.

Id rather judge the bike on its actual condition, and owner. If they know what they are talking about and are genuinely enthusiastic about bikes, im far more inclined to trust what they tell me. BUT, you must learn the difference between enthusiasm and bullshit!!

My Thundercat was on 43k when i bought it and 52k when i sold it, and i can honestly say without doubt it was FAR better than any of the 15-20k bikes i looked at when buying.

My current GSXR is about 42k miles, and mechanically perfect. Yes i had to replace a few bearings/bushes/seals when i got it, but that was factored in to the deal.

If its a good bike, at a good price, go for it!
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shock will be completely devoid of any damping by then and you will pogo everywhere. They are non rebuilable so if its a going to be a keeper, budget for a new one. Other than that, should be solid.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Doovy wrote:
My 2003 Hornet is on 34,000 miles and all okay.


And still up for sale?

Buy Doovy's one.


Not 'officially' up for sale (I keep wavering my intentions) as I realised another 2 months of insurance to go on it for my years NCB..

I guess it depends on the price he's seen the '99 hornet for.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
The shock will be completely devoid of any damping by then and you will pogo everywhere. They are non rebuilable so if its a going to be a keeper, budget for a new one. Other than that, should be solid.



I've no idea if my shock is the original or not, suspension feels absolutely fine though and it is a stock shock, either i can expect it to go tits up very soon or it's been replaced previously by the sounds of it
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
The shock will be completely devoid of any damping by then and you will pogo everywhere. They are non rebuilable so if its a going to be a keeper, budget for a new one. Other than that, should be solid.



I've no idea if my shock is the original or not, suspension feels absolutely fine though and it is a stock shock, either i can expect it to go tits up very soon or it's been replaced previously by the sounds of it


What are you comparing it against? Mine is at 27,000 miles, pretty sure the stock is original. Doesn't feel particularly comfortable, but I've nothing to compare it with, so can't say if it's gone or not.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

comparing it against a clr125, an er5 and a bandit 600 i've ridden/done lessons & tests on, more than comfortable for long distance riding etc and no issues over bumps
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:
I guess it depends on the price he's seen the '99 hornet for.


£1300, I'd buy yours at BCF rates over that one Wink
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
Shinigami wrote:




I've no idea if my shock is the original or not, suspension feels absolutely fine though and it is a stock shock, either i can expect it to go tits up very soon or it's been replaced previously by the sounds of it


What are you comparing it against? Mine is at 27,000 miles, pretty sure the stock is original. Doesn't feel particularly comfortable, but I've nothing to compare it with, so can't say if it's gone or not.


Hornet shocks, which are even less sophisticated than CBR600F ones of the same vintage, lose any semblance of damping by 10k. After that they will just pogo up and down. They are next to the exhaust, so they get cooked, and cannot be rebuilt.

Annoyingly, not a great deal of other shocks will fit, unlike the CBR shocks which can be swapped out for loads of different ones.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the price.

When I bought my Deauville with over 100,000 miles on it, I bought it in the frame of mind that it might need a new engine eventually - worst case scenario; so checked prices for second hand engines (usually around the £200 mark) and got the bike for a decent price due to the mileage.

Owned it for 2 years now, never misses a beat and has just passed its second MOT today under my ownership. I ride it like a stole it everyday and the engine has never let me down. The only money I have spent on it has been for a set of tyres and the usual oil and filter changes.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £1,200 for my good condition hornet with 24,000 miles Smile
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 26 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sold mine with 26k on the clock, looked fairly tidy, with hugger and steering damper for £1100
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