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Wonko The Sane
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Scotoiler, worth fitting? Reply with quote

Considering fitting a mini scottoiler to the ZZR so I don't have to worry about keeping on top of lubing the chain.

The millage I do I'd need to top it up once a month, if that.

Is it worth it?
is it worth the hassle of fitting it?
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 15 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, definitely not if you only have to do it once a month

Squirt some oil on every now Abd then, time And money saved Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:43 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found they make a big fucking mess. I won't be fitting one to any other bikes and will just stick to white dry lube in the future.
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PostPosted: 05:31 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally im a bit dubious about these. I know a few couriers that swear by them but for normal riding id rather just clean and oil it myself every so often.

Some cheaper similar alternative to scottoilers

https://www.loobman.co.uk/

https://www.pdoiler.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 05:41 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Re: Scotoiler, worth fitting? Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
Considering fitting a mini scottoiler to the ZZR so I don't have to worry about keeping on top of lubing the chain.

The millage I do I'd need to top it up once a month, if that.

Is it worth it?
is it worth the hassle of fitting it?


Keeping on top of lubing the chain? Dude that's no chore. Okay wait - have you got a centre stand? I can see how faffing with a paddock might get old. But really - hoiking it onto the centre then hand spinning the back wheel whilst giving 1 or 2 passes of the chain a quick squirt with some nice, thick hear oil. Pretty effortless. Fuck, I clean my chain after every ride - little bit of diesel on a small piece of sponge, spin back wheel, press sponge on chain. Viola, innit. Then on with the thick stuff. Bike loves it. Bollocks to Scott oilers unless you're planning on travelling back in time to the '80s and getting a job couriering in london. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Personally im a bit dubious about these. I know a few couriers that swear by them but for normal riding id rather just clean and oil it myself every so often.

Some cheaper similar alternative to scottoilers

https://www.loobman.co.uk/

https://www.pdoiler.co.uk/

I've tried loobman and tutoro and they're both wank. It's almost impossible to keep them aligned on the sprocket, although if your goal is to oil your rear tyre I can't recommend them enough.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

aha....but what about bikes with only a side stand?

i think i needs to buy me some paddock stands
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
aha....but what about bikes with only a side stand?


Apply oil, roll bike forward, apply more.

or block of wood under right hand foot peg, balance it on that and spin the wheel.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
mudcow007 wrote:
aha....but what about bikes with only a side stand?


Apply oil, roll bike forward, apply more.

or block of wood under right hand foot peg, balance it on that and spin the wheel.


Bought a stand used it once, over it

Just roll it back and forward now lol
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of hassle to set up but once it is right I found it good and not had to adjust the chain since (3500 miles) no faffing with lube every weekend and my wheel stays a lot cleaner than it did when I just oiled the chain manually.
I can get some pics of mine fitted on the zzr if you want mate
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
mudcow007 wrote:
aha....but what about bikes with only a side stand?


Apply oil, roll bike forward, apply more.

or block of wood under right hand foot peg, balance it on that and spin the wheel.


i think i would need a steel I beam or something

u felt the weight of a Bandit!?
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use one (one of the old vacuum actuated ones), haven't needed to adjust my chain in 10,000 miles. I still clean and oil my chain but do it much less regularly than I would need to without a chain oiler.

Mine is fitted under the seat, inside the tail cowl so it is a bit of an arse to fill it up, otherwise I am glad I have it. Wet, fast roads do an excellent job of washing any oil off of your chain, which in winter, then rusts immediately. With the oiler there is still a little bit of oil left on the chain after a rainy ride.


Tutoro/loobman are shite.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the tutoro auto and have to say im quite impressed wasn't impressed with the manual version, there is a bit of spray onto the rim etc but not tons and it was mainly caused by me not adjusting it when it got hotter Embarassed
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Scott Oiler on my bike, (came with the bike), crud build up, on my back wheel, doesn't seem any more or less than it would be without it. Unless space is severly limited, I can't see any disadvantages.
I say go for it! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use https://www.pdoiler.co.uk/ but with a Scottoiler nib on the rear sprocket, it's an electronic system (at a fraction of the Scottoiler cost, albeit without the fancy screen) - it's been absolutely spot-on and took zero effort to install and set-up. The pump uses metered doses too, so there's no need to adjust for temperature - it will always apply the same sized drop.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Tutoro/loobman are shite.

And wank. Wanking into a pile of shite, you've all seen the video.

I reckon I'll ditch the sprocket tyre oiling head on my loobman and just shove a piece of cable tie up the Japseye of the tube and lie it directly on the chain. It'll still dribble incontinently but at least it'll be voiding itself directly above the rollers rather than spurting inboard of the sprocket.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my Scottoiler but then I'm lazy.

Yes, sometimes there's a bit of oil on my rear wheel but then that doesn't bother me, it might do if I had a shiny bike.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're good when they work, mine tend to break all the time, no idea why. Just stop dripping.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one sitting in the shed, haven't bothered fitting it yet. Just seems more of a fit and forget, when I'd rather inspect my chain every few days.

There's also something really satisfying painting my chain with oil. Paint brush oiler. Old school.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boss had it on his Hornet. The chain lasted a long time and never really got loose. Based on that, I would say it is worth it. I use to make a mess doing it myself, so if it messy, it would be no different for me.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
...Just seems more of a fit and forget, when I'd rather inspect my chain every few days.

You can still do this with the oiler fitted.

Eddie Hitler wrote:

There's also something really satisfying painting my chain with oil. Paint brush oiler. Old school.


You can still do this with the oiler fitted.

It just means that between your loving oily moments, it gets yet more automatic TLC. Win.

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PostPosted: 11:16 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you want.

I have a Tutoro Auto because I use my bike everyday and do more miles than average rider.

11000 miles and I adjusted the chain once. It may need another adjustment soon.
I'm pretty sure the chain will last at least 40 000. I hope for 60 000.
Some couriers manage to do 80 000 on a chain with an oiler.

You can't get such a mileage even if you lube your chain after every ride.
I use the cheapest oil from Halfords. 5 quid for 5 Litres should last a lifetime.



Top Tip - DO NOT use a Twin feed nozzle. Single one work MUCH better. You chain will be lubed better.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a tutoro auto, i think its fantastic, i have no issue with the nozzle moving. Works a treat!
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

.... Thinking Am I the only one that uses GT-85 on their chain? Neutral
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 16 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found my loobman ok.

It did get knocked about a bit, but high stoppies on a dirt bike and off roading through English green lanes is rather asking for trouble - with normal riding it was always fine.
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