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PostPosted: 11:47 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: cutting holes in air box Reply with quote

I was thinking about cutting some holes into the side of my air box on the exc and put a wire mesh behind it mainly for visual affect more than anything but I would know if I had to re jet the carb as more air is flowing ?
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it. Rain gets in. TTR had the same Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely will need rejetted. I read on the KTM forum when I had my EXC that the jetting from standard isn't too good regardless. Usually they are set up lean to get around EU testing.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of this guy: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/May/may2710-shervin-an-internet-motorcycle-celebrity-is-born/

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PostPosted: 12:02 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it.

Cutting a hole in your airbox will probably make it flow less air, not more and will screw up the laminart airflow meaning it wont carburate correctly.

You are looking at making grief for yourself for no good reason. Don't mess with airboxes unless you understand what you are doing and why (or are acting on the advice of someone who understands).
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:


Not really, it's not quite that silly. Off road and supermoto people often modify the air box of bikes to help improve performance, but you're meant to up the jetting to account for the extra air.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irn-Bru wrote:

Not really, it's not quite that silly. Off road and supermoto people often modify the air box of bikes to help improve performance, but you're meant to up the jetting to account for the extra air.

Not heard of an EXC needing it - it's usually on bikes designed to be slower and more road biased.

For the OP: why not just stick the mesh on the outside?
People that don't know about it won't know the difference and people that do would have thought you were silly if you had done it probably.

And yes, if you do, you will need to rejet.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:12 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't do it unless you've seen some good solid evidence of it working and making a improvement on your bike.

A lot of people do it for 2 strokes, i personally did 2 small holes with some piping coming out of drilled holes facing down and it gave me slight improvement on my 0 - 60 time,However it did give me issues when it rained hard.

Plus if it doesn't work, your left with a bodged airbox.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

do it faggot
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned, you'll probably make the air flow worse not better. If you do it, you'll probbly need to upjet.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remove the airbox and put mesh where it used to be...
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you just take the lid off the airbox or remove the intake silencer rubber/snorkle and do a back to back dyno test?

If more airflow is needed then such a test with A/F ratio monitoring would show it up both with differences to power and to the fueling.

Some bikes have a restrictive airbox and some don't. If such a test doesn't show any gains or show up big changes in fueling, then it's not needed and not worthwhile. You can also do a dyno run with the airbox intact and the filter element removed, and this would tell you if a freer flowing filter element would be worth fitting or not.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of my 2 stroke EXCs have had a snorkel like that I don't think - and nor did my husaberg that I remember; I'm presuming the 4 strokes don't either.
The more trail/road orientated bikes do/have done.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'd say that makes more sense, as your not really worrying about intake noise levels on a competition machine.

The snorkel is often as about reducing noise and turbulence in the inlet hole to the airbox as it is about effecting performance.

I know on some bikes like the KMX125 for example that the airbox entry/snorkel is smaller than the size of the opening to the filter element. Modifying the airbox lid correctly and re-jetting seems to add 1-2bhp over std too.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to let more air in,fit a K&N air filter purpose made for the bike

https://pdq1.com/part.php?PartID=465&MakeID=17&ModelID=777&YearID=3260&Year=

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PostPosted: 23:58 - 22 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doovy wrote:


Just had a look at his bikepics.com profile hoping for some lulz. Turns out that all of his photos have been deleted because he'd uploaded roughly 1500 of them, most of which showed the same thing.

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PostPosted: 18:41 - 23 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems like no is the answer

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PostPosted: 09:31 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did this on my TA and cured its asthma but created a ram-air issue at speed even though it was behind the main fairing.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut up the air-box Thumbs Up set fire to bike Thumbs Up = no more problems Thumbs Up





The only time modifying an air-box has worked for me was when I re-jetted my RD 250 lc many moons ago.
And! then I only drilled some holes in it so it could suck better/more.
And! that was only after having a bad experience with those stupid after-market cone filters???
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of years ago when I added a pee-shooter powerpipe exhaust on my Suzuki ap50 it sounded much faster........ but it was actually 5mph slower Embarassed
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Cut up the air-box Thumbs Up set fire to bike Thumbs Up = no more problems Thumbs Up





The only time modifying an air-box has worked for me was when I re-jetted my RD 250 lc many moons ago.
And! then I only drilled some holes in it so it could suck better/more.
And! that was only after having a bad experience with those stupid after-market cone filters???



Don't even start with cone filter's pep!
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drilled six 15mm holes in the front of mine but this was BEFORE the filter so the flame-arrest function of the filter remained. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 24 Aug 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mesh? Pah!
If you want to mess with airflow for asthetic enhancements, this is how it's done:
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