Rusty Honda CBF 125's

[wots]

Mine had started to rust after 6 months, admittedly over the winter months but it had been treated with the scottoiler equivalent of ACF 50, supplied by the dealer and advised to use.

Finally took it in last week and the warranty guy advised the following needed replacing, but needed the authorisation from Honda, understandably.

Swing arm
Both Shock Absorbers
Hangers
Gear Shift Linkage
Brake pedal
Engine Covers (peeling apparently).
Exhaust

Just called the dealer now, they advise that Honda have approved all but two items, they won't replace the Swing arm or hangers. Why? Because they don't believe the replacement parts would be of a better quality, therefore they are paying to have the offending parts powder coated by a local professional outfit.

So great that it's all being sorted, but I'm stunned. To do all this, they need my bike for a week.
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[Doovy]

6 months.. from new?!
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[TheBikerStig]

[wots]

Yup, bought in September, Rusty in March. Should've done it before now, but hoping to sell it and put the proceeds towards a 954
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[P.]

Fair play for them sorting it though rather than fobbing off as "misuse mate" ala BMW.

[wots]

It's made in india, and it 'aint no stunner (except it is, sort of ...)
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[-Matt-]

6 months from new so much for honda build quality

quite suprised theyve been so forthcoming with the warranty assistance to be honest, thought warrantys were about as useful as chocolate teapots most of the time now days

[DrDonnyBrago]

Can't argue with the warranty support .


Send this thread to Victory motorcycles.

[garth]

Good service, shocking quality.

[BG5067]

it's a known problem with quite a few of these bikes.

So much so somesones created a facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/HondaCbf125Rust
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[Rogerborg]

Et tu, Honda.

Fair play to them, that's all of their profits and a good chunk more, especially paying someone else to have the swing arm and hangars powder coated.

But then that's also them acknowledging that the stock parts are (to this day) inadequate for use on UK roads.

So, nice try, but I still wouldn't have one. Good luck to the poor saps buying them out of warranty and expecting that legendary Honda quality.
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[wots]

It's a shame really, because it's being 100% reliable. Nearly 4,500 miles and not a problem. 2 people have used it as a springboard to their full A.

I've been using it the last few days to keep commuting costs down, in that respect it's a little gem. Having said that, I've had two services which if I had done myself or gone to the local garage It would've been a whole different story.

Sadly It's having a service done as it was due, they hinted it was necessary. I can sell it shortly with a large part of it new, some of it better than new!
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[Christoffee]

Makes me sad for my CBF. When I was researching bikes most of the criticisms of the CBF125 seemed to be addressed to the earlier models, particularly the pre-2011 no rev counter jobby. Which was a bike that was almost a grand cheaper than the current model. I thought I wouldn't have to worry about crap like this.

I'm pleased that Honda are decent enough to sort it though.

*Bookmarks thread for future use*
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Bike: CBF125

[Pigeon]

You've done well, a mate really struggled to get his Honda dealership to replace something under warranty. Many emails and phone calls later they finally caved.

A 5min job and they had the bike a week, it came back filthy.

It should not happen, but you've got the best out of them.

[wots]

Sadly it's common knowledge, people talk about the fuel pumps etc. Not true ANYMORE. I was talking to the dealer and they confirmed the process change. Flushing the tank and fuel system thoroughly as part of PDI.

It's made in India, to a budget, aside from the Honda mechanicals, I don't think it's much better than the better Chinese bikes. I'm thinking Lexmoto here. I nearly bought a Street when I looked at this, but I followed the 'buy japanese' advice.

As I say, it's a shame, but can't complain about my dealer. They are sorting this on my behalf.
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Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125

[illuminateTHE...]

I had a cbf 125cc hire bike a while back and i was surprised how quickly rust formed on the bike. Shocking stuff.
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[Christoffee]

Just bought me a can of ACF-50.
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Bike: CBF125

[Dave_R]

AFAIK there are four versions of the CBF125 in the UK, the; M9, MA, MB and MD in chronological order.

The M9 and MA don't have a rev counter and have rubbish tyres, later models; MB & MD have a rev counter and Conti Go tyres.

The M9, MA and MB models were affected by the dodgy fuel pumps, from what I've gather the latter few of the MBs had revised pumps, I'd assume the MD model also has the better pump.

The new MD model had a slight change in appearance; much of the bike is coated black, the fairing decals have been updated and the red CBF has changed to a darker shade. One other notable change is the addition of a belly pan. The MD was released earlier this year so I don't have any reliability information, but I would guess the black coating and belly pan should address some of the CBF125's infamous rust issues, we'll see after the winter

EDIT:
Not sure if an MC model is out there, maybe... (read posts below)

[wots]

[Christoffee]

[Dave_R]

[Christoffee]

[Dave_R]

I agree, there's hardly anything on the web about the various CBF125 models.

Much of what I know comes from what I've ridden or owned, which doesn't include the new one. There isn't anything definitive on the web, in summary of what I've loosely pieced together; the M9, MA, MB, MC & MD are listed as CBF125 models in a few places, e.g. parts compatibility lists, but I've yet to actually see an example of an MC, whereas there are plenty of examples of the other models, including the new MD.

My post, albeit with the earlier mistake between MC and MD, is possibly the only "comparison" of the models on the net.

EDIT: To elaborate on the CBF125s I've owned and ridden,

M9 - Hire bike paid for by a third party's insurance company, ridden for a few weeks.
MA - Owned for half a year, had a problem where the engine would cut out on hot days, possibly related to a bad fuel pump but I'll never know since the bike was written off in a SMIDSY (hence the hire bike!). Rusty of course, pretty much in the same places as wotsthestory's machine.
MB - Current bike which I bought new about a year ago, since then; seat lock jammed, exhaust pipe fell off, steering bearings went stiff and the fuel pump played up - all happily fixed under warranty. There were rust issues too but not as bad as my last CBF because from that I learnt what needs the most care!

[Christoffee]

It's perhaps worth noting the Haynes manuals. The CBF125 manual covers the year 2009 - 2012, and if you look at the back cover on Amazon it covers the M9, MA and MB. Perhaps the MC/D had some bigger changes.
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Bike: CBF125

[Irn-Bru]

I will add to the above posts about older CBF's, my mate had a brand new late 2009 model from new, everything was alright on it frame wise apart from it went through 2 exhausts in 2 years/15,000 miles due to massive rust problems. Also had summit wrong with the gear box where it would slip into neutral randomly when accelerating in 2nd (I tested this myself) but the bike had been crashed within 60 miles of it rolling out the showroom, so could have been a factor - Honda sorted it all out anyway no questions asked.

These CBF threads pop up too often, the KTM Duke 125 is another one. These 2 bikes should probably be listed as avoid at all costs.
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