Rear wheel removal help?

[bird079]

i need to remove my rear wheel to put a new wheel on the bike is skyjet 125-26 i already have the parts just cant get the axle bolt off!

Please help me

[doggone]

Can you post a picture?
Is the main problem the nut seems too tight?
If so you generally need more leverage like a length of metal pipe on a good ring spanner (probably not the supplied one if any)

[stirlinggaz]

hi,
its just a standard nut isnt it?
use a breaker bar or impact gun. wouldnt harm it to use a bit of penetrating fluid (not wd40) before hand.
cheers,
GAZ

[bird079]

yeah its just a normal bolt one on each side the one on the left of the bike is a larger nut. but i cant get it spinning with a wrench on both sides but using one side it just keeps spinning

[Commuter_Tim]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-600mm-2-inch-Breaker-Drive/dp/B000O619PA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381169163&sr=8-1&keywords=breaker+bar

Failing all else, that will do the trick, you would also need the appropriate sized 1/2" socket also tho.

If you're just trying to loosen from one side, sit on the bike and put your foot on the rear brake, then try again? should hold the spindle in place.
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I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[bird079]

cant get a pic up phones to rubbbish lol but yeah when i out a spanner on each end its just too tight to get any movement going lol

is there a specific side i should be undoing? ive been undoing the right hand side (side which the exhaust is on)

[Commuter_Tim]

If you're just doing one side, then the one with the nut, as opposed to the bolt, which on mine is the exhaust side yes.
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I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[bird079]

have got myother half to take a couple of pics

[Commuter_Tim]

Mine was rusted worse than that, in the end the only thing that worked was blowtorching the crap out of the nut, then breaker bar/socket shifted it.

Heres hoping yours doesn't need that, as it was a bastard to do.
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I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[bird079]

am i undoing the one on the first picture whilst holding the one in the second picture secure?

[Commuter_Tim]

Yes, the first picture is the axle nut.
Second is the Spindle/axle bolt.

I think some people just use the rear brake, whilst undoing the axle nut, others put a wrench on both sides, cant hurt to do both if you can balance

I find sitting on the bike backwards helps steady it while doing it, but my piddly 125 would go flying if I didn't.

Point of slight concern though, and maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself can answer this...
...but it seems quite troubling that his axle nut has no split pin or self locking threads? Do the Chinese not deem this important? :S
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I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[bird079]

thats another thing that confused me i spent ages looking for some kindof cotter pin but couldnt find one :/ but tomorrow i shall get the socket and wrench and have at it put some penetrating oil on for the evening. but it should come off with pressure on both sides right?

[Commuter_Tim]

If there was a cotter/split pin, you would see it, also if it was missing, there should be a small hole through the axle itself in front of the nut, yours only appears to have 1-2mm sticking out in front of the nut, so not possible.
If it was a self locking nut it should look like this...

https://www.turnbolt.co.za/assets/images/Self_Locking.jpg

see those blades? again they would be visible even when fully tightened if yours had them.
In theory if correctly torqued/tightened It shouldn't come loose (in theory) but I guess safety wasn't the top priority on the Chinese Engineers list.

I would take everything I say with a pinch of salt as I'm still relatively new to all this Wrench Monkey business, but when you do get it loose, I would make sure its done up nice n tight...
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I ride a Bandit 600... badly.

[bird079]

i dunno then i got the bike second hand so maybe they were replaced by some mong :/

[Raffles]

[Commuter_Tim]

[Nb]

The nut looks rounded off now, if you had access to a little heat/gas to get the nut hot that would fall off. What did you use to try and undo the nut/bolt?
Do you have a replacement nut/bolt already?
If the bikes still able to be ridden i would take the bike to a local bike place and get them to undo it, shouldnt take them 5 minutes.
And where in bucks are you roughly?
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[el_oso]

my bike (yzf600r) doesn't have a castle nut and split pin. The recommended torque is 120Nm. Which if my A-level maths/physics is correct is approximately equal to hanging 40kg on the end of a standard 12" break bar. That's about half my weight. So they are done up pretty tight.
My recommendation would be go down the gym and build up some strength and/or get a longer bar on there. Don't be too afraid of destroying the nut. Just make sure you have a good grip with the socket and it should undo with quite a bit of force
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[bird079]

ill get my other halfs brother to help me clearly i need a mans muscle here...guess theres somethings a woman cant do on her own

[anthony_r6]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what Tim is refering to is actually trying to untighten the nut by putting force on it, and the bike rolling backwards as you try and yank it. Putting the brake on just stops you being able to pull it back.

Also as for holding a spanner on both sides, this had to be done on my old bike as when I tightened or released the nut, it span the entire axle until I applied counter-force.

I don't see why his advice is mocked???
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[Vincent]

OP, if you have the right spanners, the best way to get good purchase is to sit on the floor behind the bike, one leg either side of the wheel, have the spanner on the right straight upwards, (if possible), same on the other side. Pull back with the right hand while stopping the left hand one moving. Watch for the exhaust if it's still hot!
When you stick the wheel back together, use a bit of ordinary grease on the spindle/axle.
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[Commuter_Tim]

[Raffles]

In the picture showing the nut that Tim seems to think isn't a self-locking nut, it looks as though the chain's split link is installed incorrectly.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=90649
The picture isn't too clear, but the link appears to have been fitted the wrong way around.
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