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I just thank God that she survived.
I'm not even interested in the story, I'll go ahead and assume it was another "too drunk to consent therefore rape", like only vaginas can be non-responsible for their actions. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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It's most scary when you have to explain this part of our 'culture' to an Asian.
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And fucking cretins bandying about allegations like a nonce hands out Werther's Originals to kiddies is the very reason we are now a national of sceptical bastards, who don't believe the women who it genuinely happens to.
Zimmerman woman or whatever her name is should be immediately taken out of the gene pool. |
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Sounds like a case of "shit, now I look like a whore on the interwebs, mommy and daddy wont be proud this is what they're paying £20k a year for....better call it rape".
That zimmerman thing I think I've seen before but forgot about it, truly terrifying.
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| Mk1GSF wrote: | Are you trolling? |
No, I'm really not. That's the thing. It comes across as such because we've turned 'rape' into this sort of inherent bad, when really there definitely are huge differences in severity.
There's the garden variety that everyone thinks of when they hear 'rape': walking down the street at night, kidnapped and bundled into a van, that sort of thing. Clearly that's horrific and should not be tolerated, it's an absolute removal of freedom. It's an assault and it could fairly easy fall under alternative legislation.
When it gets down to something like a 'date rape' (not one involving the use of spike drugs, just your standard too drunk to consent thing), I just don't see that it's anywhere on the same level, we shouldn't even be using the same word.
There is a huge difference between a crime that is painful both emotionally and physically in the moment, and one that just causes a bit of regret later down the line. They're definitely not worthy of the same punishment.
Much like paedophilia, where actual abuse of children (which is obviously horrific) is basically considered comparable with looking at a 15 year old's holiday photos on the net (which is just, well, a bit odd, but not really a huge societal issue).
If you know all of the facts you can make a proper conclusion, when people see the catch-all word 'rape' it conjures up images of the absolute worst case.
Other crimes don't really have this problem. Assault is assault, yes there's a severity scale between slashing at someone's arms and giving them a slap, but we don't really see the same problem with someone being tapped on the shoulder and then being vilified for it even though that's still a legal 'assault' because people seem to apply their rational brains.
Of course, the topic is generally completely off limits for discussion because it uses bad words. Which is why I assume you think I'm trolling. No-one wants to actually think about the act, so we hide behind euphemisms, and as a result make bad decisions because we've lost detail. |
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| GhostRider wrote: | I think you expressed yourself better in that second post rather than the first. I agree, should not be placed in the same category at all.
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I guess.
I stand by post #1, though.
I don't mean it with any disrespect to rape victims, 'good' or 'bad' kind.
It could be that my own personal reaction to these things is unusual.
I'd feel much more strongly personally, about being physically forced into a situation I didn't want, sex or no sex, than I would about having an unwanted notch added to my bedpost. Male or female, ugly or not.
The situation obviously changes if things like pregnancy/STD's are involved.
I just see the act of sex as being a kind of irrelevant bit, the crime is the imprisonment, the removal of liberty, the physical damage. The mental damage. I don't understand how having a drunk fumble can significantly affect your mental health unless you were unhinged to begin with.
| Quote: | are you a rapist because the sexee lacks confidence and/or spine to tell you to fuck off? |
That's the problem, really.
The way these things seem to be going, which is that actual consent is required in a very real 'say yes' sense, seem to completely disregard how actual human interactions work... |
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The whole lie to make the situ worse for the man turning a minor matter into a serious rape case seems to be a more and more common thing I'm hearing on the internet and tv soaps etc, now people who do that are really fucked in the head.]
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 158 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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