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Well, it seems like electric cars really are beginning to make sense rather than just being an eco-showoff...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/12/review_bmw_i3/?page=2

Equipped with the REX it can manage a combined cycle of 470.8 mpg! Now, as soon as BMW bow to public demand and put a proper sized fuel tank on the thing (rather than the 9l it can hold) it'll actually be a viable electric driven car with the option of saving a few quid on the commute too.

i8 looks like it will be even better. I'm waiting for the iz4 though

<edit> should add that the REX is an on board 650cc engine as everyone so far seems to've missed that point...
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MPG is a pointless figure on these...

What they need to show is how much it costs to charge the battery from flat to full at the current Kwh costs.

Now that will scare potential owners off.....
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[DrSnoosnoo]

Agree. They all say, just simply plug it in and away you go the next day. I "simply" plug an electric heater in and my meter goes into superfast spinny mode, what would it do if it was charging my x Ah battery everyday?

BUT you get 500 miles per gallon of electricity

In fairness I love the idea of a motor powering an electric motor, no need for heavy expensive batteries, just let a motor idle away giving all the charge a motor would need. Then that's still relevant for MPGs. If this starts cutting petrol usage though, we'll have to expect the price at the pump to shoot up so they all still get their profits and taxes to similar levels.
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[TheSmiler]

Really not much for the car in OP's original post, the I8 however .
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But what does that 'warranty' cover?
I doubt it covers the battery losing charge from use and I expect daily high use could easily see it expiring before 8 years.
Or, you can unintentionally let it run out of power and as per the Tesla, be liable for replacement cost.

Need to consider not only cost of charging, but the extra depreciation as the battery bank gets used. Not sure if that warranty will transfer to the next owner too, which may drastically reduce it's resale value.

I'm not convinced about the figure too - I wonder if it's a case of, say, a 120 mile drive where the ICE fired in for 20 miles and they worked it out from that.

I do like the idea of a petrol-electric hybrid. Especially one where you can remove the ICE for daily use to save weight and space.
However, I still wonder if for longer journeys, it'd do better on economy for the ICE to be directly connected to the drive chain to avoid losses.

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[Clutchy]

It would be much better if they didn't go for the futuristic look and some how managed to replicate a 1 series and so on.


Anyway it sure is progress nonetheless.

Agree on the point that the more these sell in the future, fuels going to rocket forcing people to get electric cars
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^^ Yep, Audi have managed it with the A3 which is coming out next year with a motor/ICE combo claiming something like 200MPG but looks exactly like the current A3.

Do people really want this robocop looking shite?

https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/e-tron/the-new-a3-e-tron.html

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[Wonko The Sane]

I don't unserstand how electric car ownership is meant to happen for the masses.

My street is terraced houses, can't remember the last time I actually managed to park outside my house, how am I meant to safely and securely string a cable across the pavement to charge it?
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[BakesBeans]

Electric cars do seem to be getting better, but as per questions above lets do a few figures.

However, I bet the big benefit is you pay around 75% tax on petrol/diesel and 5% on electricity. I would also assume power stations are more efficient at creating energy than car.

For the calc, the car says it can do between 80-100miles on a full charge. Lets say 90miles.

It also states it takes 3hours to fully charge with a 7.4kw wall box.

I currently pay 11.41pence per KWh - lets add on 10% for the coming price rise.

12.551pence x 7.4 x 3 = 278.6322pence

It would cost £2.79 to drive 90miles.

Ok, a diesel car can get 50mpg easy. So how many miles would £2.79 get you?

Diesel = 137.73pence per litre = 2.023litres of diesel (or 0.445 uk gallons)

0.445 gallons at 50mpg will get you 22.2502miles

so,
£2.79 of diesel will get you 22.25miles


But the big benefit, is I'll charge it at work! Boom!
(I don't have, or intend to have an elec car)


Edit: I forgot I was on BCF, so I'll end with ... innit bruv.
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If it actually 'took off', it wouldn't be unreasonable in densely populated hours to have charging posts at regular intervals with reasonably chunky chargers which would be a bit of hassle in a house - ie 10kw or whatever.

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[supZ]

Any cost saving from electric won't last very long.

If it did happen and people stared using leccie cars the consumption would go up raising the cost (because they can, although they'll say it's due to fuel costs rising to generate it) but moreso than that, I'm surprised no ones considered that the moment people start moving to electric they'll just add the tax onto that instead of just being on fuel.

The government wants their cut from somewhere.

Who remembers diesel in the early 90s? 1/4 1/3rd of the price of petrol? The government said they wouldn't tax it anywhere near as much as petrol as it was meant to be the economical option..

Yeh.. and how much is it nowadays?

Trust me, the moment we all move to leccie powered cars that £2 odd to drive 90 miles will evaporate.
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