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PostPosted: 16:59 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it looks like you are long-sighted. You could probably use off-the-shelf reading glasses since you are +0.25 in both eyes but prescription glasses are a more exact match.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant see the problem. Just wear them for the test. Dont give the bloke taking the test an excuse. You don't need to inform the DVLA either - you worry far too much about pointless stuff.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear glasses for test and when you're riding the bike.
Get used to wearing them beforehand.

They can steam up/mist so visor may be need to be cracked open more than normal. Trick may be to put tie-wrap around chin part to prevent visor closing completely.

For wearing under helmet suggest pair of specs with straight arms. You may need to get used to juggling putting on helmet and then glasses if it is a full face lid. You may find certain makes of full face lid make it eeasier to put glasses on. I know I've had to rule out certain makes as could not get glasses on in comfort.

With the flip-up style helmet you can just keep the glasses on. Although this type are more noisy than full face.

Best of luck with the test.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember, if you wear glasses for your test you have to wear them (or contacts or be able to prove you have had surgery) in the future as your licence will be coded to mark that its only valid when your eyesight is corrected. (code 01 will be marked on your entitlement)
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
Remember, if you wear glasses for your test you have to wear them (or contacts or be able to prove you have had surgery) in the future as your licence will be coded to mark that its only valid when your eyesight is corrected. (code 01 will be marked on your entitlement)


Not quite wot they say.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-eyesight-rules

"You must wear glasses or contact lenses every time you drive if you need them to meet the ‘standards of vision for driving’.
You must tell DVLA if you’ve got any problem with your eyesight that affects both of your eyes, or the remaining eye if you only have one eye.

This doesn’t include being short or long sighted or colour blind. You also don’t need to say if you’ve had surgery to correct short sightedness and can meet the eyesight standards."
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of nonsense on this thread. I can't see shit without my lenses in but I don't need to inform the DVLA that I wear them.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been covered on BCF before:
www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3195090
www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=260464

I can't find anywhere that it says that you have to declare that you need corrected vision, other than the driving licence application form. But all it takes is a jobsworth examiner to add it to your pass cert and you would end up with an 01 code.

There must be a box that they tick to confirm an eyesight test has been carried out, does it have a second tick box to confirm if the vision was corrected at this point?

Having an 01 code on your licence is all you need when you have been pulled over by a half awake plod and your not wearing your specs (3 points code, MS70)
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
This has been covered on BCF before:
www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3195090
www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=260464

I can't find anywhere that it says that you have to declare that you need corrected vision, other than the driving licence application form. But all it takes is a jobsworth examiner to add it to your pass cert and you would end up with an 01 code.

There must be a box that they tick to confirm an eyesight test has been carried out, does it have a second tick box to confirm if the vision was corrected at this point?

Having an 01 code on your licence is all you need when you have been pulled over by a half awake plod and your not wearing your specs (3 points code, MS70)


You failed the reading exam.


"You must wear glasses or contact lenses every time you drive if you need them to meet the ‘standards of vision for driving’.

If you need glasses to read the plate at the set distance for a driving test then you NEED to wear them whilst driving.
As if you don't you will possibly misjudge distances and stuff. 57' (65' old)
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can read that bit

But, there are cases of people being asked to return licences to DVLA to have the '01' code added.

What all of the gobbledygook from the DVLA doesn't say is how you end up with an '01' code. It can obviously be from your provisional licence application form, but the point I'm trying to make is that it may be recorded by your test examiner. If that's the case and you can meet the eyesight rules without corrected vision, then it may be prudent not to wear glasses for your test as you could end up with it recorded on your licence.

I'm sure we all know how difficult it is to get the DVLA to change something once they have written it in their stone carved records!
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
This clarifies a few things, still doesn't fully answer my question, but it does seem the best plans to try the eyesight without glasses and I guess leave them off throughout. Does seem to be a bit of a grey area, one that's best not to be involved in if it can be avoided.


Why try without them - if you need glasses to read it properly, wear them.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
I can read that bit

But, there are cases of people being asked to return licences to DVLA to have the '01' code added.

What all of the gobbledygook from the DVLA doesn't say is how you end up with an '01' code. It can obviously be from your provisional licence application form, but the point I'm trying to make is that it may be recorded by your test examiner. If that's the case and you can meet the eyesight rules without corrected vision, then it may be prudent not to wear glasses for your test as you could end up with it recorded on your licence.

I'm sure we all know how difficult it is to get the DVLA to change something once they have written it in their stone carved records!


Where is the grey area?

If you need to wear glasses to meet the 'standards of vision for driving' then you need to wear glasses whilst driving.
It will mean you need your vision corrected and it will be marked 01 on your licence.

No mystery.

The codes printed on your driving licence tell you what conditions you must meet to drive.
The codes and their meanings are as follows:

01 - eyesight correction
02 - hearing/communication aid
10 - modified transmission
15 - modified clutch
20 - modified braking systems
25 - modified accelerator systems
30 - combined braking and accelerator systems
35 - modified control layouts
40 - modified steering
42 - modified rear-view mirror(s)
43 - modified driving seats
44 - modifications to motorbikes
44 (1) - single operated brake
44 (2) - (adjusted) hand operated brake (front wheel)
44 (3) - (adjusted) foot operated brake (back wheel)
44 (4) - (adjusted) accelerator handle
44 (5) - (adjusted) manual transmission and manual clutch
44 (6) - (adjusted) rear-view mirror(s)
44 (7) - (adjusted) commands (direction indicators, braking light, etc)
44 (8) - seat height allowing the driver, in sitting position, to have 2 feet on the road at the same time
45 - motorbikes only with sidecar
70 - exchange of licence
71 - duplicate of licence
78 - restricted to vehicles with automatic transmission
79 - restricted to vehicles in conformity with the specifications stated in brackets on your licence
101 - not for hire or reward (that is, not to make a profit)
102 - drawbar trailers only
103 - subject to certificate of competence
105 - vehicle not more than 5.5 metres long
106 - restricted to vehicles with automatic transmissions
107 - not more than 8,250 kilograms
108 - subject to minimum age requirements
110 - limited to transporting persons with restricted mobility
111 - limited to 16 passenger seats
113 - limited to 16 passenger seats except for automatics
114 - with any special controls required for safe driving
115 - organ donor
118 - start date is for earliest entitlement
119 - weight limit for vehicle does not apply
120 - complies with health standard for category D1 (minibus)
121 - restricted to conditions specified in the Secretary of State’s notice
122 - valid on successful completion: Basic Moped Training Course
125 - Tricycles only
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the OP's first post:

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Also I asked if needed to inform the DVLA that I was wearing glasses, and was told no, as my eyesight meets the legal requirements. So when it comes to my bike test, I'm guessing to not have glasses as a condition of my license, I'll have to squint through the eyesight test then what... put them on after? Smile Or do you have to declare that you wear glasses and have them on for the entire test? "

THATS the grey area

If you can pass the eyesight test without glasses, but decide wear your glasses for your test is your licence then marked with '01'?
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
From the OP's first post:

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Also I asked if needed to inform the DVLA that I was wearing glasses, and was told no, as my eyesight meets the legal requirements. So when it comes to my bike test, I'm guessing to not have glasses as a condition of my license, I'll have to squint through the eyesight test then what... put them on after? Smile Or do you have to declare that you wear glasses and have them on for the entire test? "

THATS the grey area

If you can pass the eyesight test without glasses, but decide wear your glasses for your test is your licence then marked with '01'?


YES. If you wear glasses to do the 1st part of the driving test (rading the number plate) it will be noted that you wore glasses.
It is the legal requirement that the examiner records this.
There are enough blind bastasrts on our roads. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
janner_10 wrote:
Why try without them - if you need glasses to read it properly, wear them.

Because I don't want that code on my license if I can avoid it.


Are you thinking insurers will load your policy for wearing glasses?
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nope, more having to drive at some point, not having my glasses then getting into $hit if I had an accident.

I know it's a noddy test/check but if you can't do the licence plate check without glasses why would you drive without them? Why would you even think about it? Or would that be the beer telling you to do it? Wink

If you need glasses you need glasses, get over it. In the scheme of things it really isn't that big a deal. If you think it is then you really need a reality check.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If both plus then yes you are long sighted. You have a bit of astigmatism which can help make letters look better.

It will help relax your eyes too.
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Glasses advice Reply with quote

As above, I'd keep the glasses well out of the way right through the test.

I stupidly did buy glasses when I was first getting a bike because the optician suggested I should Rolling Eyes - young and naive an' that (actually, they were nice for riding with the visor up.)

Was worried my eye sight wasn't going to be up to scratch for lorry test, so got an eye test. They advised my eyes would be ok to pass the doctor's test, but glasses might be useful anyway.
I got better than 20/20 in the Doctor's eye test! (Surprised me too - some of it was just luck in getting the right letters probably.)
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did my bike test, 2007, I had glasses with me.

Went out to do the read a numberplate bit, did it without glasses successfully.

Wore my glasses for the actual test.

Haven't worn glasses in years and years. I can see fine without them I'm only -0.25, -0.5. Had an eye test in January and prescription is still the same as when I was 17 so alls good it seems.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hate to not be able to see, I'm I overweight and going bald but thank God I can see.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 24 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
I'd hate to not be able to see, I'm I overweight and going bald but thank God I can see.


So you can find the fridge ok and don't need to find a comb. What's your beef then?

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