Honda Pan European ST1100 won't start urgent help needed.

[Global_Mongrel]

I recently parked my bike up, but upon parking I lost my balance and rolled over onto it's right side. Besides cracking a pannier box, there was no more damage.

However I went to start it today after it being parked for 3 days and it won't start. Key turns, dash and lights comeon, but nothing. Kill switch on, still nothing.

Ideas?

[map]

Is it in gear?
Is it in gear with sidestand down?
Have you tried WD40 in the kill switch?

There will have been a tilt sensor that'd killed the electronics. You need to do a google and check this is ok/reset.

Have you tried jumping it from another 12v battery/power pack.
You might have damaged the battery in the fall. Plus this time of year with it being cold doesn't do a so-so battery any favours.

I'd check battery first.

Please post progress/fix as I'd be interested.

HTH
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[Matt B]

Did you ride it after you dropped it, or is this the first attempt to start it after the fall? Just trying to work out if it's connected to dropping it or not.

EDIT: If it's the tilt sensor try disconnecting the battery for a few minutes and reconnecting. See if that helps.
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[misscrabstick]

Does it click or anything when you press the starter button? apparently there is a rollover cut out switch some where, I have a pan myself but not had it long so not that familiar with it yet, also I understand that the alternators can seize up which stops the engine turning.

[chris-red]

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Apparently there was a recall of ST1100's due to the tilt switch failing...

Found this which suggests a way to bypass it to see if that's the problem...

"> I have had a similar problem. The bank angle sensor on my '93 failed. The
> bank angle sensor connector is mounted to the back of the instrument
> cluster. Only windshield, black cover above headlight and gray panel under
> windshield only needs to be removed to gain access to back of instrument
> cluster. It was a long time ago, but if I remember correctly, I jumped the
> red and green wires together(at the connector), this will bypass the
sensor
> and supply power to the circuit. I rode with the sensor bypassed for 2
weeks
> until the new one came in. Good luck......

https://www.mail-archive.com/st1100-digest@yucca.anv.net/msg00044.html

[Global_Mongrel]

Thanks to you all. Solution found to be WD40 to the kill switch. The cold weather and water had no different got to it as it started shortly after that.

Thanks for all your help.

GM

[Marmalade]

Just in case, for the future. If you drop the bike with ignition on, once back upright you need to turn off the ignition and turn it back on to reset the tilt switch or it will just turn over and not start.

They can go faulty and are a pain in the arse to change, behind the fairing on the offside, screwed to the fairing subframe just above where the mirror is.
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[evoboy]

I had an ST1100 in recently that was suffering from charging problems while riding the bike.

Swapped the reg/rec for a working used item, still the same. After digging deeper, it turned out the alternator had a crack in the casing!

Was only putting out enough power to run the engine and lights, but once the heated grips were on, it would discharge the battery.

Looks like a common problem, been as there are a few used parts on ebay with cracks in the cases!

Posting for future reference
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[misscrabstick]

I am very scared of this happening to mine.

[tatfan]

I left my pan for a few days. Everything was working fine when I left it I went to the garage to warm her up before doing an oil change and nothing happened when I pushed the starter. Turned out the alternator had seized while it was parked up. Changing it turned out to be a pig of a job cos I didn't know the gear plate is meant to stay in the engine. If I knew that, it would have been quite simple.


https://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa116/grahamstaines/Honda%20pan%20european/20131027_141642_zpsf4ae7859.jpg


https://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa116/grahamstaines/Honda%20pan%20european/20131027_144014_zpsbda517a6.jpg

I've done 25000 in led than two years on it and that's the first thing that's failed on it for me. Considering its 13 years old I don't think it's too bad!

[Marmalade]

Mine doesn't get a chance to seize, apart from the acf50 i cover it in, I do 60k a year on them.
I find that if you remove the swing arm, tank and all associated bits it is a piece of cake to change.
Done a couple on other peoples bikes.
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[misscrabstick]

That really sucks! what is the best way to spray mine with some ACF stuff? what needs to come off to get to it? paranoid now.