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Clutchy
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Am I drink driving/riding Reply with quote

As with many of you, we like to go out on the piss sometimes and the next morning I will either walk to work, take a day off or get a lift.


Now can anyone recommend an electronic breathalyzer that is accurate (within reason) or would one of those disposable ones be better? Anyone had in experience with this?

Would like to know if I am still over the limit the next day etc
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how reliable all the cheap ones are, i've used the french-road side ones before which were fairly accurate i'd say.

These are the home office approved ones if you want to go the whole way - but probably quite expensive Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, there are loads on ebay ranging from £2-£18 all seem way too cheap to actually be accurate!
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutchy wrote:
Interesting, there are loads on ebay ranging from £2-£18 all seem way too cheap to actually be accurate!

Yeah I wouldn't rely on one that cheap personally I'd probably be just as trusting of the ''1 unit per hour after drinking'' calculation, but thats pretty damn inaccurate for some people unfortunantely depending on the speed you drink and how much you eat/weigh.

Would be interesting to see a comparison of some cheaper ones against the approved ones, if it exists Confused
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you remember how much you drunk? 1 Unit = 1 hour to break it down.. +1 hour after you stop drinking..
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't waste your money.

Age old test for this - ride the bike, and if you fall off, you're probably too drunk to ride.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Don't waste your money.

Age old test for this - ride the bike, and if you fall off, you're probably too drunk to ride.
I Agree Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't Drink and Dride.
Toke and Skyve.

Or summit along those lines. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
Can you remember how much you drunk? 1 Unit = 1 hour to break it down.. +1 hour after you stop drinking..


This is interesting...

https://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/drivingissues/1127227453.html#.UqoMMWRdVCc

0.015 BAC metabolised per hour. UK limit is 0.08 as far as I remember, how much it takes to get there is really variable though 4 units seems the generally guessed at guide for a bloke.

Also, we're better when we're a little bit drunk:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1295824/So-REALLY-drink-drive-We-test-range-motorists--surprising-results.html
Took a while for me to spot they were talking 35ml measures of vodka.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but the whole drink drive limit is flawed and I believe there should be a roadside sobriety test for people just over the limit on the night or the next day as everyone reacts differently to different amounts of alcohol

For example (and I'm just using the first list I found online here): take a 30 year old man from Russia (who drinks almost 16 litres of alcohol per year), and a 30 year old man from Pakistan (who drinks about .2 litres of alcohol per year), and give them both 4 shots of vodka each. Both will be over the limit, but would they both really be in the same condition?

Or another example, 2 men from the same country, drink about the same amount as each other, and for example drink 4 pints each... the difference between them is one is 5'5" and weighs about 9 stone, the other is 6'3" and weighs about 17 stone... I wonder who's body will absorb and break down the alcohol quicker.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tend to go by the rule, if im pissed the night before I dont use a vehicle until lunchtime the next day, If I have to be out in the morning i drink less the night before.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go by the rule I had to go by when I was learning to fly - no heavy drinking within 12 hours of a lesson and a minimum of 8 hours "bottle to throttle".

Done me reasonably alright up until now. Then again I don't have a job so I don't have to worry about going out, getting home at 3am pissed to get up at 7 to get ready for work either.

I don't even drink with a meal if I know I'm driving home. I had a pint once then went back home and just felt... wrong. I haven't done it since. I am a lightweight though.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
Sorry but the whole drink drive limit is flawed .


Quite correct.
The limit should be ZERO.

No if or buts then.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
I believe there should be a roadside sobriety test

I also believe that there should be roadside sobriety tests but I wouldn't trust the police to carry out such tests.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 12 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
I go by the rule I had to go by when I was learning to fly - no heavy drinking within 12 hours of a lesson and a minimum of 8 hours "bottle to throttle".



When I used to fly, the rule was, stand up at the end of your bed, and quickly spin round once. If the room stops when you stop, you're good to go. If it keeps spinning, give it til 12. If you fall over, no flying today.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
Don't waste your money.

Age old test for this - ride the bike, and if you fall off, you're probably too drunk to ride.


The man has a very valid point! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorps wrote:
i tend to go by the rule, if im pissed the night before I dont use a vehicle until lunchtime the next day, If I have to be out in the morning i drink less the night before.


Same, except I make it tea time at the earliest to be sure, just not worth it.
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alcohol?!?! Eh? Take lots of class A drugs and then shortly before needing to drive, you should drink half a pint of lager.

If you get stopped by plod then they'll want to breathalyze you because your breath smells of alcohol. Once they've done that then you'll then be free to carry on driving, possibly to work or more likely to your dealer if for some reason they don't deliver 24/7.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Alcohol?!?! Eh? Take lots of class A drugs and then shortly before needing to drive, you should drink half a pint of lager.

If you get stopped by plod then they'll want to breathalyze you because your breath smells of alcohol. Once they've done that then you'll then be free to carry on driving, possibly to work or more likely to your dealer if for some reason they don't deliver 24/7.


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PostPosted: 08:26 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khanivore wrote:
Ste wrote:
Alcohol?!?! Eh? Take lots of class A drugs and then shortly before needing to drive, you should drink half a pint of lager.

If you get stopped by plod then they'll want to breathalyze you because your breath smells of alcohol. Once they've done that then you'll then be free to carry on driving, possibly to work or more likely to your dealer if for some reason they don't deliver 24/7.


Win!


Not true, you'll still go to court for being unfit through drink or drugs, I know this as I did a course on it...
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee Wright wrote:


Not true, you'll still go to court for being unfit through drink or drugs, I know this as I did a course on it...


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PostPosted: 11:42 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

never drink before I drive....I used to work with a guy that would stumble into work reeking of booze at 7am..its a wonder he could find the wagon let alone drive it!!!

I did it once years ago....don't even know how i made it home Shocked just after me and my 1st ex wife split..
had drunk about 1/2 bottle of vodka , then drove home....vowed then never to do it again..and i didn't.

don't drink now..can't on the tablets i'm on..but amzed at how many folk still drive to pubs then drive home....
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
andym wrote:
Sorry but the whole drink drive limit is flawed .


Quite correct.
The limit should be ZERO.

No if or buts then.


I don't buy the whole 'but this bloke can take 6 pints fine cos he's hardcore so he should be alright to do it' mantra but zero tolerance is also way OTT in the other direction.

I get hayfever - the pills make me a bit drowsy. Let's ban those with hayfever too.

Some people have stronger reactions to coffee than they do to alcohol. No caffeine for 3 hours before you step into a car please sir.

IMO - people should get a grip. The UK limit is set at such a level that even a 60 pound bag of fly crap Marty McFly wouldn't be unduly hindered having taken it on board. The effect of such alcohol is at best negligible, and akin to driving dehydrated in terms of concentration levels.

Yes, people that go out and live by the motto 'it'll be alright' aren't doing anyone any favours but to throw the book at and ban people on a zero tolerance policy is just madness. Unless you've got the cash to buy a super accurate blood alcohol machine you can install in your boot, you're never going to know whether the one pint you had at 9 the previous evening has a remote trace in your body when you set off at 6 in the morning. Get a good long ban for that? No cheers.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter how high or low the limit is, there's always going to be the one bloke who has a skinful, decides to drive home in his Land Rover Defender and rams a bus full of kittens into a firework factory.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly drinking on the night out, you wouldn't drive it's just the question of am I safe to drive now, I feel 100% and stopped drinking at 12am (early because I wasn't allowed into a club, forgot my ID was with the DVLA) but I have no idea how much I drank...



At a guess... 3 pints and 10 shots maybe? Its been nearly 12 hours since my last drink.

This would be the ideal time to have a machine. Crying or Very sad
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