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Az
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Restrictors in or out? Reply with quote

A friend of mine has been riding for the last week and a half on an A2 license with no restrictors in, now the restrictors have arrived he doesn't really want to put them in as he's happy and feels comfortable riding the bike at full power.

How risky would it be for him to ride without the restrictors in and no certificate?

Should he get the certificate that came with the restrictors filled in and stamped by some back street mechanic and ride without restrictors, so if he's pulled he can produce proof of restriction?

Or just abide by the law and get the restrictors fitted and certificate filled in and stamped properly?

Anyone had any bad experiences with the police while riding without restrictors in?


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PostPosted: 23:30 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age old question, I ride without mine, but it comes down to YOU.


Do you want to take the risk? Only you know the answer Wink


Unlikely to ever get done for it but it certainly isn't impossible.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As with any crime, it is generally best to not advertise the fact you are doing it.

Korn said he gets a lot of requests for IP addresses from the coppers over what is sometimes said on here.

You've just come right out and said it. You didn't even say "a mate of mine"...

Anyways, if you have a big accident there is a chance they will check the bike and you will be in the shit then. They will throw the book at you big time. If you have no accident then you'll very likely get away with it.

Your call.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
As with any crime, it is generally best to not advertise the fact you are doing it.

Korn said he gets a lot of requests for IP addresses from the coppers over what is sometimes said on here.

You've just come right out and said it. You didn't even say "a mate of mine"...

Anyways, if you have a big accident there is a chance they will check the bike and you will be in the shit then. They will throw the book at you big time. If you have no accident then you'll very likely get away with it.

Your call.


I bet you £10,000 I won't get in trouble for it from my post...

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PostPosted: 23:35 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go telling all your real life mates that you've done it either, like you just did on here, you only have to fall out with one and it takes one phone call to dob you in!
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutchy wrote:
I bet you £10,000 I won't get in trouble for it from my post...

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If that was a bet I thought you would honour then I'd take you up on that Smile
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
As with any crime, it is generally best to not advertise the fact you are doing it.

Korn said he gets a lot of requests for IP addresses from the coppers over what is sometimes said on here.

You've just come right out and said it. You didn't even say "a mate of mine"...

Anyways, if you have a big accident there is a chance they will check the bike and you will be in the shit then. They will throw the book at you big time. If you have no accident then you'll very likely get away with it.

Your call.


Advertising who's crime? my crime? I think you read the post wrong aha Wink
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lad Smile
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
Clutchy wrote:
I bet you £10,000 I won't get in trouble for it from my post...

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If that was a bet I thought you would honour then I'd take you up on that Smile


You reckon you could find my details? Wink

That's the thing though isn't it, I've seen it a few times on road wars where a p1ssed off ex has called the police to stake her ex husband out who's about to drink drive as he does it every Friday when returning from the pub.

You have to take what you read online with a pinch of salt, for all you know I'm 14 years old and I don't even own a motorbike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 22 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's up to you bud, it's a tricky one really because on one hand you know you can ride your bike unrestricted fine & as far as I'm aware it's quite unlikely you'll get busted. It seems really rubbish to have to pay to reduce the performance of your bike. But on the other hand if you do it atleast you know you're completely legit & don't have to worry if you get pulled over.

By the way, what bike has your friend got? Wink
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 22 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My restrictors are currently in a bag in a draw. I ride my bike all the time without them. Fuk u polees.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 22 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not put mine in yet, my argument being that my bike probably doesn't even make 47bhp now (was 52 as standard 19 years ago)
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 22 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be alright probably.

Bikes restricted can get to speeds to lose one's licence. If you crash into someone make sure you smash your bike up so they can't test for restricted status Smile
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not if your over 24 just stump up the cash and do the tests for a full licence? Simple solution.

I'm so glad my Mod 2 was postponed till after the rule changes so forcing me to just do DAS. What a hassle it would have been farting about wih restrictors in.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Restrictors in or out? Reply with quote

az- wrote:
Anyone had any bad experiences with the police while riding without restrictors in?
A close friend got financially fucked after an accident he ended up taking a chunk of blame for. The insurers found out the bike wasn't restricted and refused to pay up.

I kept mine in the duration - license and money is too precious for me to justify the risk personally, however small it may be.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Restrictors in or out? Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:

I kept mine in the duration - license and money is too precious for me to justify the risk personally, however small it may be.


I'd lose my car license aswell wouldn't I? Passed my motorbike one first in Dec 2012...


Thinking about putting my 33bhp ecu back in if I get this job in London seeing as that would be a lot of commuting... Higher chance of a crash etc...
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how many points you get if not a ban. Fairly sure if you passed your car test very recently it also 'restarts' your two year reduced points period from the usual 12 down to 6.

I passed my car test last year so i've been having to go extra careful as two speeding tickets and its curtains all round AFAIK Hurt

As you say - its about risk of accident more than 'police catching you' in my mind. I wouldn't be too certain of not having an accident in the next two years even now after having experience riding some years, on an unrestricted bike a few years, let alone as a new rider on an unrestricted bike.

Really not worth it for me personally, the speed and acceleration when restricted was more than enough to get by for two years on anyway, would beat most cars upto three figures on a lot of bikes.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

New license 2 years probation shouldn't restart if you get a new "privilege" on your license, even if you get your bike license 20 years after you had your car you should still be able to get 12 points, not 6.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
Depends on how many points you get if not a ban. Fairly sure if you passed your car test very recently it also 'restarts' your two year reduced points period from the usual 12 down to 6.


As far as I know, the two years runs from your first test pass, and isn't reset with further passes. The first test pass can be a in a car, a moped, a bike, anything, so long as you have a 'full' UK driving licence for something.

It isn't going to be an issue for me, seeing as I'm just going to wait for the summer to turn 24 and do DAS, having bungled my attempt at getting a pre-3DLD licence, but I imagine I'd restrictor up, because I'm a big chicken. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thats good, cheers for confirming Thumbs Up thats a relief as thought i'd got my first ticket in the car the other day Rolling Eyes couple more days and I should be home safe...
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could just check this thread for some imaginative ways to pretend it's restricted?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Restrictors in or out? Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
A close friend got financially fucked after an accident he ended up taking a chunk of blame for. The insurers found out the bike wasn't restricted and refused to pay up.

They can kick up a fuss about the comprehensive payout to him, which would leave him no worse off than if he'd been TPF&T or TPO.

They can't shirk payouts to third parties. We've been over this again and again, it's absolutely unambiguous in the statute.

They may have tried to pursue him to recoup their payout, but that's not what you said.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I could walk to work, meh, maybe I'd take the punt for the last 6 months of my restriction to come off early and blast about this summer, but I can't. So I just can't take the risk.

It's your call, chances are minimal, but it does happen.

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PostPosted: 15:02 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Why not if your over 24 just stump up the cash and do the tests for a full licence? Simple solution.


I only recently got my A2 license. I'm 19, so i can't go for my A license yet.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

az- wrote:
Boozehawk wrote:
Why not if your over 24 just stump up the cash and do the tests for a full licence? Simple solution.


I only recently got my A2 license. I'm 19, so i can't go for my A license yet.


Just get a bike within the HP restriction then.
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